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Old 12-31-2013, 01:29 PM
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Let's take a poll with all American citizens of how taxes and welfare should be handled.
Because P99 raid scene and Federal Finance are exactly the same thing. I suppose the money is artificial in both scenarios though.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:43 PM
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Let's take a poll with all American citizens of how taxes and welfare should be handled.
this happens every two years
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:20 PM
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:34 PM
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Limited resources and a system of distribution where no one can agree on it.

Sounds about right big Rav.

Imagine a live server that by around PoP, nothing had come out past Kunark. We got roughly the same problem, but we've tacked 50%+ xp bonus weekends on top of it (hellllooo Chardok!).

Accept that its the CONTENT and this problem was INEVITABLE. Take the free mob agreement or continue to get NOTHING while the lifers are happy with their mountain of pixels until Velious.

Do you not realize this effectively means they don't have to raid anymore to continue to secure their advantage until then? Hell, I bet some of em were actually hoping for a break in trying way too hard for that #1 spot.
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:42 PM
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Take the free mob agreement or continue to get NOTHING while the lifers are happy with their mountain of pixels until Velious.
Yeahhh, the lower tier guilds aren't going to be devastated that they're going from almost none of these targets to literally zero.

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Do you not realize this effectively means they don't have to raid anymore to continue to secure their advantage until then? Hell, I bet some of em were actually hoping for a break in trying way too hard for that #1 spot.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only people who care about who the #1 guild is is the #1 guild.
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:56 PM
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I think velious should be 100percent competition on every single mob for first 3 months. Just like live the best guilds should be the first to conquer, after its been around a bit then work to adjust.
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:05 PM
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Yeahhh, the lower tier guilds aren't going to be devastated that they're going from almost none of these targets to literally zero.
Well if you'd rather not get anything, so bet it. Way to seize the opportunity to guarantee yourselves mobs.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the only people who care about who the #1 guild is is the #1 guild.
Nah, I believe in rewarding teams that put in effort. But I'm also highly in favor of guaranteeing you guys some mobs. Especially ones you need to complete epics (hint not in VP). I think them locking down Faydedar, for instance, is ridiculous at this point... or Innoruuk/CT.

It's very easy to see me also support the top 2 guilds and categorize me to an extreme. However, I try to remain objective and fair.

Fair isn't raid mobs being left up for 2 days. Try to understand that in EQ, raid content was designed for a top % of the player base. Try to understand you have been in Kunark WAY too long, but, also for a good reason. Nilbog and company have taken time to circle back after adding that necessary extra content to fix a *ton* of glaring mechanical issues/non-classic content.

Maybe a halfway done Velious release that is kind of messed up isn't the worst thing that could happen. If rampage works, fine do it. If you can drag a person who is KOS to claws of veeshan/yelinak past dragons for a little while? Okay fine. But the problem here is the # of players and content. I don't necessarily blame a top guild for trying to secure best in slot loots from the loot pool available. Cast your bias aside and try to realize what I've been advocating.
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:12 PM
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:30 PM
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:24 PM
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Well if you'd rather not get anything, so bet it. Way to seize the opportunity to guarantee yourselves mobs.
Oh, it's certainly an improvement over the current state of things. I just think you're kidding yourself if you think that the casuals are going to be the ones hurting during an armistice. They've been playing like this for 2 years; what's a little longer?

Beyond that, I agree with most of what you're saying. Believe it or not, casuals like competition. The race during the forced repop was a ton of fun. We're just oversaturated with raid guilds and the fact that casuals are getting stomped by batphoning alt armies for gear that they don't need (in everyone's opinion but theirs, of course) is disheartening.
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