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Old 08-08-2022, 01:54 AM
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Sorry not sorry for skimming your excessive posts. There are 3 expansions and 60 levels.

So... you're wrong because you're trying to answer a broad question with no answer unless you define it more clearly.

"XYZ Class sucks at 60 in Velious so they are the worst"

Nah, they are the worst (maybe) at 60 in Velious at a particular time.

Mages dominate level 4 in any era. Get rekt, pontificating nerds.
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Old 08-08-2022, 09:11 AM
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Mages dominate level 4 in any era. Get rekt, pontificating nerds.
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Old 08-08-2022, 09:17 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Loraen's_Class_Selection_Guide

Link above basically sums up most underpowered for any given situation. /thread
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Old 08-08-2022, 10:59 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Loraen's_Class_Selection_Guide

Link above basically sums up most underpowered for any given situation. /thread
Yea, I've referenced that guide a few times in this thread. He accounts for tons of different scenarios/stats which is useful in these discussions. Mage was his #5 overall. Solid class across the board, despite their lack of utility.
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Old 08-08-2022, 11:17 AM
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Yea, I've referenced that guide a few times in this thread. He accounts for tons of different scenarios/stats which is useful in these discussions. Mage was his #5 overall. Solid class across the board, despite their lack of utility.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that guide. It rates SK's higher than Warriors, and rates Paladins at the bottom. It's either outdated or not that accurate. It also rates Paladins lower in raids than SK's, which is off for sure.

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So as well as levelling too quickly and not needing to bother with 60 to satisfy its raid roles, we are now arguing magicians are underpowered because they can solo level 61 mobs (but slowly)?

Seriously?!
No. You simply are thinking too much into raiding. The discussion isn't "which class is the most underpowered in raiding", it is which class is most underpowered overall.

Mages can level quickly, but so can a lot of classes. That isn't anything super special. They just run out of things to do after they level besides becoming CoTH bots.

Please show us some awesome level 60 Mage soloing. I can't even find videos online.
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Old 08-08-2022, 11:34 AM
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Yea, I've referenced that guide a few times in this thread. He accounts for tons of different scenarios/stats which is useful in these discussions. Mage was his #5 overall. Solid class across the board, despite their lack of utility.
Yes, sorry about that as I didn't read entire thread, it's too much. I don't know why raid is even factored into underpowered discussion in this thread. If you are in a guild you get invited to the raid no matter how useless your class is, so raid power is irrelevant in my book. Group and Solo is all that should matter in this discussion. If you add up those 2, then it puts Rogue at the bottom as it should be, then followed by Wizard. Those two are my bottom two underpowered classes. Rogue needs something to allow them to solo which would fix them. Wizard needs something to make them more viable in group which would fix them.
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:43 AM
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Mage is underpowered because it can xp quickly to a capable raid level to fulfil several vital roles and because it ploughs trash better than several classes bit can’t solo raid mobs like a shaman.
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Old 08-08-2022, 09:27 AM
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Would love to see the raid scene on p99 without coth

Lol @ most underpowered class

You guys be smokin’ crack man
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Old 08-08-2022, 09:42 AM
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Would love to see the raid scene on p99 without coth

Lol @ most underpowered class

You guys be smokin’ crack man
We aren't discussing most underpowered in raiding. The discussion is most underpowered overall. Nobody has claimed Mages are underpowered in raids.

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There's no encounter that requires coth,the races would just change. More trash clearing
Precisely.

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What camps? I asked before but I think it got lost in the chaff. I ask because I seldom see level 60 magicians online so I don't know what they're doing. I certainly don't often see them in the areas I'm usually in.

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I want to know this too. It has yet to be answered.

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Yeah please list these, especially with the current agro mechanics chain petting isn't too useful unless you have room to kite.
You can use the new agro mechanics to your advantage though,if you have an epic you can pet kite ice burrowers,though whether it's worth it is questionable.
Shamans can do this too, but it takes forever hehe. Even with the increased DPS of a Mage pet it would be pretty slow. Probably not worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fsvt1xfuqY
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Old 08-08-2022, 11:18 AM
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We aren't discussing most underpowered in raiding. The discussion is most underpowered overall. Nobody has claimed Mages are underpowered in raids.



Precisely.



I want to know this too. It has yet to be answered.



Shamans can do this too, but it takes forever hehe. Even with the increased DPS of a Mage pet it would be pretty slow. Probably not worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fsvt1xfuqY
A guildie of mine does it,takes about 20 mins and all of her mana,even using 2epic pets to get started. Looks fun at least
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