If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Succession]

Originally Posted by Hauling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a rock that keeps bears away. I'll sell it to you for $500. Would you rather go the rest of your life in danger of being attacked by a bear, or would you rather buy my rock and be disappointed in the event it doesn't work?

I'm pretty certain being a just-in-case believer doesn't count from everything I've ever heard about religion. It's like telling Santa Claus you've been a good boy when you've been stealing the other kids' lunch money.

Yes! I will gladly purchase your bear-deterent rock if it is all that you can do to provide for your family. If not, I'd find my own.
But no, I'm not a just in case believer that was simply just a peculiar scenario.

[Abysis]

Its not really someone's fault if they don't believe in God. And fear of shitty afterlife doesn't make you believe it just makes you pretend and lie to yourself.

Like if someone told you that you would go to hell if you didn't believe that the sun was cold and the sky was green would you believe that?

It has to be believable to be believed. Some are more gullible then others, and i guess they get to go to heaven. Skeptics go to hell.

But hey God made them skeptical so its kinda his fault.

Unless you play the free will card then the argument gets even dumber, with a totalitarian belief system you must follow or you spend eternity in pain and suffering for just not buying some far fetched idea. And all this from someone who loves you.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Succession [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My thoughts on Atheism:

I would rather live my entire life believing in God only to find out when I die that there is no Heaven/Hell than live my life denying God only to find out when I die that God is real and consequently spending Eternity in the Burning Depths of Hell. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atleast believe in something, man. Anything.. :/

If there really is an afterlife, you don't want to be one of those lost souls just floating about in limbo for eternity. Come join the party. Those Islamic guys are gonna be chillin with 69 virgins, I know you love that. Or maybe those Christians will invite you over to the Golden Streets of Heaven? Shit man, you could even party in Hell if you're in to that kind of stuff. Maybe, the Buddhists will hook you up with some Nirvana. I mean, group up with the Agnostics and discuss your own ideas if you want. They'll be around I'm sure, atleast some of them.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you really care that much about your tiny significance of a mortal, humanly life to blindly denounce God(s)? Why are you mad? Forgive your debtors my friend. Coexistence is possible.

You're human flesh has an expiration date, no matter what you believe in. We all die. You're belief in nothing will lead you, that is for sure. It will lead you to die alone. You're soul will drift from your dead body alone, into nothing, forever.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have faith, in something.
Treat your Soul to a Divine existence, bro.
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Wow, that would be really clever if Blaise Pascal hadn't come up with the idea of gaming the heaven system 400 years ago. What you're proposing is called Pascal's Wager. Unfortunately, it reflects terrible logic and indulges in the fallacy of argument from inconsistent revelations. This was first pointed out by no less a man than Voltaire himself!

One of the problems with this bet (for that's what this is--a gamble on infinity) is that there have been many gods and many religions throughout human history. Who is to say that the Christian God is the best bet? Ever heard that "there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet?" What if the Greeks had it right? Or the Babylonians? Or the Celts?

Richard Dawkins proposes that if God exists, he may be more inclined to reward honest attempts at reason over blind faith. Further, he suggests an anti-Pascal wager in which it is likely that one would lead a superior life by not squandering one's time worshiping, sacrificing for, fighting for and possibly even dying for an arbitrarily chosen deity.

On the other hand, it's good that you're at least trying to think!

[Lazortag]

Is there someone on this board who seriously doesn't believe in evolution? How can you believe in something that is against virtually every peer-reviewed scientific journal? Is it all just a conspiracy?

[chtulu]

I'd like to take this time to congratulate myself on this thread.

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to take this time to congratulate myself on this thread.

Kudos, it's a fun thread.

[nalkin]

Sometimes it really freaks me out to realize how much of the world is so blindly religious. I don't get how some people can be seem so normal and then out of the blue just have some completely irrational belief.

Believing in a God or Gods is alright, even though it makes no sense. But actually subscribing to an organized religion like christianity and believing the bible is truth, that is just lol (and also frightening when so much of the world is like that).

But im sure your local pastor has every detail pinned down so keep listening to him...

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes it really freaks me out to realize how much of the world is so blindly religious. I don't get how some people can be seem so normal and then out of the blue just have some completely irrational belief.

Believing in a God or Gods is alright, even though it makes no sense. But actually subscribing to an organized religion like christianity and believing the bible is truth, that is just lol (and also frightening when so much of the world is like that).

But im sure your local pastor has every detail pinned down so keep listening to him...

Yep, I believe only in my local pastor, that's it, he tells me everything I need to know...oh wait. This isn't a cult...

Watch how I can flip this, just like you guys try to make everything our fault:

Sometimes it really freaks me out to realize how much of the world is so blindly hateful towards religion. I don't get how some people can be seem so normal and then out of the blue just have some completely irrational belief.

Believing in a theory or theories is alright, even though it makes no sense. But actually subscribing to an organized failure like evolution and believing a theory is truth, that is just lol (and also frightening when so much of the world is like that).

But im sure your local scientist has every detail pinned down so keep listening to him...

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, I believe only in my local pastor, that's it, he tells me everything I need to know...oh wait. This isn't a cult...

Watch how I can flip this, just like you guys try to make everything our fault:

Sometimes it really freaks me out to realize how much of the world is so blindly hateful towards religion. I don't get how some people can be seem so normal and then out of the blue just have some completely irrational belief.

Believing in a theory or theories is alright, even though it makes no sense. But actually subscribing to an organized failure like evolution and believing a theory is truth, that is just lol (and also frightening when so much of the world is like that).

But im sure your local scientist has every detail pinned down so keep listening to him...

I'm curious, why do you think evolution is a lie or conspiracy or false? Or better yet, what did your pastor say? Because i bet money that you didn't just arrive to this conclusion by researching yourself.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious, why do you think evolution is a lie or conspiracy or false? Or better yet, what did your pastor say? Because i bet money that you didn't just arrive to this conclusion by researching yourself.

My pastor doesn't have anything to do with it. I went to school, I listened to the science teachers, and still no one can give good reasoning behind evolution having not changed humans in the last 6,000+ years. I mean if you want to believe that a gigantic collision happened and from there grew this complexity fine, do your thing. But how you can see that as reasonable is just pure madness.

I mean, by now with all the car crashes etc shouldn't we have spawned at least a few miniature solar systems by now? Those impacts of things hitting the earth and leaving craters a mile wide, shouldn't that have done something for us? I mean seriously, how can people just say, oh well Darwin saw life happening, and realized that people and animals can adapt, oh boy, lets postulate a theory, that to this day can't be proven.