OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why VP should remain competitive and everything else should be rotated.

Why? You said this is why.. but you didn't elaborate as to why. Do so.

[Versus]

I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

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[falkun]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.

It is shortsighted to compare the velious raid environment to the 3year old kunark one.

[Happyfeet]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.

That's the whole point, we won't "need" an agreement for Velious, we just fucking need Velious. If we added another 50 raid targets, I think that would just solve our problem. There are enough armor dropping mobs for everyone if you factor in farming PoG. Everyone can spread out and not be stepping on each others toes constantly. Even Vindi spawns every 8 hours!

I'm going to go ahead and post the list of named mobs for you in Velious so you all can start working on your rotation now, I figure it will take 19 versions of Excel spanning from 1.0 to current.

Lord Yelinak
King Tormax
Dain Frostreaver IV
Lord Velketor
Lord Doljonijiarnimorinar
Zlandicar
Neb
Klandicar
Sontalak
Kelorek'Dar
Wuoshi
Lodizal
Kelorek`Dar
Stormfeather
Derakor the Vindicator
Statue of Rallos Zek
Idol of Rallos Zek
Avatar of War
Bristlebane
Tunare
Ancient Totem
Fayl Everstrong
Prince Thirneg
Galiel Spirithoof
Grahl Strongback
A Phase Puma
Ordro
Sarik the Fang
Treah Greenroot
Undogo Digolo
Dozekar the Cursed
Casalen
Grozzmel
Krigara
Lepethida
Midayor
Tavekalem
Ymmeln
Arreken Skyward
Gozzrem
Lendiniara the Keeper
Telkorenar
Aaryonar
Cekenar
Dagarn the Destroyer
Eashen of the Sky
Ikatiar the Venom
Jorlleag
Lady Mirenilla
Lady Nevederia
Lord Feshlak
Lord Koi'Doken
Lord Kreizenn
Lord Vyemm
Sevalak
Vulak`Aerr
Zlexak
Atpaev
Ayillish
Bratavar
Bufa
Cargalia
Del Sapara
Derasinal
Draazak
Entari
Esorpa of the Ring
Gafala
Gangel
Glati
Harla Dar
Hechaeva
Honvar
Icehackle
Ionat
Jen Sapara
Kar Sapara
Karkona
Klandicar
Linbrak
Makala
Makil Rargon
Mazi
Melalafen
Mraaka
Myga
Neordla
Nintal
Onava
Pantrilla
Quoza
Stronghorn
Tantor
Tranala
Tsiraka
Uiliak
Vitaela
Von
Vraptin
Yal
Yeldema
Zil Sapara (The Dragon Sage)
Guardian Kozzalym

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Happyfeet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the whole point, we won't "need" an agreement for Velious, we just fucking need Velious. If we added another 50 raid targets, I think that would just solve our problem. There are enough armor dropping mobs for everyone if you factor in farming PoG. Everyone can spread out and not be stepping on each others toes constantly. Even Vindi spawns every 8 hours!

Giant Arena Rotations INC, Server Pop high enough for 24/7 armor farms!

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Giant Arena Rotations INC, Server Pop high enough for 24/7 armor farms!

Considering Arena mobs can be done with less than a group of 50's, there will be no rotations there just people camping the spawns.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.

I'd like to point out that *I* have not advocated anything. I am going about my life as normal and when the suspension lifts and the agreement is made, I trust in TMO leadership to make it one that I can live with. I am comforted in the fact that there will NOT be a rotation.

To answer your question: No, I do not want some bullshit care bear agreement to be carried over into Velious. Perhaps when Velious drops all these problems go away by themselves as the more casual guilds will get a majority of the Kunark raid mobs + VP while the more hard core raid guilds are concentrating on ToV and NToV. Just like how it was in 2000. Granted, they will pop back up two years into Velious, but we can deal with that then.

[Nirgon]

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