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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Things don't work in polarized extremes, no matter how much corporate kool aid you drink. You could protect the environment just as well, if not BETTER (no need to hire as many lawyers) by simplifying environmental regulations. If you've ever bothered reading one they're insane. Now imagine being the owner of a 5 man small business trying to manage a building project.

Environmental regulations hardly protect the environment one bit. They largely halt building projects.

You're full of shit. Environmental regulations are the reason we no longer put lead in gasoline, dump arsenic from mining tailings into drinking water, mandate certain emissions standards from vehicles (which still kill more than 50,000 a year), and more. Environmental regulations aren't perfect, but that's no reason to gut them because Hank Joe and his family-owned business of sister-wives can't dump trichloroethylene into the local reservoir. If anything they need to be more self-limiting, because public health should take precedence over (((corporate))) quarterly growth. And the right isn't just campaigning for the simplification of environmental regulations, they want them substantively reduced in their scope and severity.

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The world doesn't turn into a toxic wasteland because you abolish the fucking EPA, hahahhahaa holy shit do you really live in a world where inside your own headcanon that's reality? what an out of touch person you are. I really can't say anything more about this than you're entirely out of touch with reality.

Did you know the sky over LA used to look like China does now? Any idea what changed? Sounds like you're living in your own personal reality where the entire United States just cleaned up its act in the 1980's without coercion from any authority.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by originalman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

parrot brain forgot the conversation where he agreed the best plan for earth is usa burning as much fossil fuel as needed to subjugate lesser nations into emissions restrictions

hmmmmm you mean crippling our economy while ignoring most major sources of industrial pollution in favor of buzzwords like carbon, and completely ignoring the fact that every other major polluter in the world doesn't give a shit and will continue doing whatever, doesn't help anything?

you mean to tell me the climate change theory he ascribes to is based on climate response projections that claim we've already entered runaway heat death?

you mean to tell me green energy and reducing carbon emissions can not possibly do anything but extend the human race's lifespan 10-20 years unless we go carbon negative, which would involve killing about 1/2 human population overnight and reforesting every major city and rural area in the world?

you mean to tell me he doesn't even understand the basics of a scientific hypothesis he'll demonize you for not believing in? he literally doesn't even understand the implications of it or what it means on a fundamental level?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm *thinking*

yeah i wonder who's the victim of propaganda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lune]

Originally Posted by originalman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

parrot brain forgot the conversation where he agreed the best plan for earth is usa burning as much fossil fuel as needed to subjugate lesser nations into emissions restrictions. if we'd just start roleplaying nazis left & right could finally kiss with tongue

I'm sure that is what I agreed to in that form with no changes or qualifiers.

Or maybe as a matter of principle I'm personally assblasted by climate science denial and environmental pollution, and I want to minimize these things as much as possible while still acknowledging the realpolitik of our situation, ie, the US is one of the biggest fossil fuel producers on the planet and it's a huge part of our wealth and prosperity.

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hmmmmm you mean crippling our economy while ignoring most major sources of industrial pollution in favor of buzzwords like carbon, and completely ignoring the fact that every other major polluter in the world doesn't give a shit and will continue doing whatever, doesn't help anything?

you mean to tell me the climate change theory he ascribes to is based on climate response projections that claim we've already entered runaway heat death?

you mean to tell me green energy and reducing carbon emissions can not possibly do anything but extend the human race's lifespan 10-20 years unless we go carbon negative, which would involve killing about 1/2 human population overnight and reforesting every major city and rural area in the world?

you mean to tell me he doesn't even understand the basics of a scientific hypothesis he'll demonize you for not believing in? he literally doesn't even understand the implications of it or what it means on a fundamental level?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm *thinking*

yeah i wonder who's the victim of propaganda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure assume a lot of inane dogshit about what I may or may not think about the climate. I left global warming out of the conversation specifically because I knew you were incapable of approaching it from a place of fact and understanding instead of ignorance and conspiracy.

[Xaanka]

lol @ saying global warming in 2017 you're supposed to be pretending that theory we were all supposed to believe in or else you're hitler never existed

remember it's climate change now. if you don't believe in our environmental theory that changes every 5 years you're literally hitler

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure that is what I agreed to in that form with no changes or qualifiers.

Or maybe as a matter of principle I'm personally assblasted by climate science denial and environmental pollution, and I want to minimize these things as much as possible while still acknowledging the realpolitik of our situation, ie, the US is one of the biggest fossil fuel producers on the planet and it's a huge part of our wealth and prosperity.

do you know anything about climate science or do you just read blogs/news and pretend you know what you're talking about?

like do you even know what climate change theory is? can you tell me which projection models are currently accepted by the scientific community? can you tell me which theory climate change theory relies on/is based on?

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol @ saying global warming in 2017 you're supposed to be pretending that theory we were all supposed to believe in or else you're hitler never existed

remember it's climate change now. if you don't believe in our environmental theory that changes every 5 years you're literally hitler

Nah, the planet is warming, it had to be changed precisely because people like you would go outside in winter or have a cold year and start drawing retarded conclusions.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure assume a lot of inane dogshit about what I may or may not think about the climate. I left global warming out of the conversation specifically because I knew you were incapable of approaching it from a place of fact and understanding instead of ignorance and conspiracy.

you're claiming i'm a "climate denier" but you don't know anything about this theory. do you not even realize how brainwashed you are. CNN tell Gork fire bad!

you literally used the word "global warming" like dog you don't even know the NAME of the theory you're trying to demonize me for being skeptical of.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, the planet is warming, it had to be changed precisely because people like you would go outside in winter or have a cold year and start drawing retarded conclusions.

Accelerated warming has ceased since 1998 and if you don't understand the meaning of the absolutely fucking massive difference between the projections and response models behind both theories you're a certified retard who shouldn't be calling people climate deniers when you know fuck all absolutely zero about the topic.

[Xaanka]

it's this same bullshit every time from climate retards "i don't care if they were wrong or lied 5 years ago, they're lying for a good cause* and you're hitler"

do you not see how you're too low functioning to kick it on the same level as woke posters?























*citation needed