Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Troxx]

Pocket potty

[Elizondo]

DSM trying to distract from the fact he plays shaman so badly

Video Evidence leaves no doubt

[Keebz]

Your definition of pocket character not agreed upon by anyone. But for arguments sake I have personally leveled multiple shaman bots to 60, so you are also wrong there.

But yes, pocket characters are irrelevant to this discussion.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your definition of pocket character not agreed upon by anyone. But for arguments sake I have personally leveled multiple shaman bots to 60, so you are also wrong there.

But yes, pocket characters are irrelevant to this discussion.

Guild bots are a bit different from pocket characters, as you have DKP incentives to level them. The community agrees with my definition of pocket character, as my definition describes the practice of pocket characters. It has been this way for years.

Are you claiming people don't make level 55 mages for cothing, as an example? They are all leveled to 60?

If you want to claim pocket characters are irrelevant to the topic, rebut this post:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5531

[Zuranthium]

Someone please buy a pocket pussy (mini size) for DSM so he can finally have something else to do. There have to be more interesting threads to create after 2 years.

[Troxx]

DSM’s rationale is clear. Shamans need pocket clerics so pocket clerics should be allowed even though everyone else disagrees with respect to this thought experiment.

Meanwhile clerics don’t need pocket shamans at all to be successful in all environments within the scope of this thought experiment.

Very sound logic.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM’s rationale is clear. Shamans need pocket clerics so pocket clerics should be allowed even though everyone else disagrees with respect to this thought experiment.

Meanwhile clerics don’t need pocket shamans at all to be successful in all environments within the scope of this thought experiment.

Very sound logic.

Troxx continues to troll by strawmanning what I've said.

Troxx is ignoring Vaniki, where a lone Cleric would not work, and Malo/Shaman Slow/Torpor would help more than a second Cleric.

Troxx continues to dodge this post, which disproves his claim that pocket characters are not allowed in this thread, using his own logic:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5531

Troxx is also denying reality, as people make and use pocket characters regularly.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troxx is ignoring Vaniki, where a lone Cleric would not work, and Malo/Shaman Slow/Torpor would help more than a second Cleric.

Done a lot of 4-person Vaniki kills?

500+ pages later these four friends are being signed up for the death row of p99 camps…

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Done a lot of 4-person Vaniki kills?

500+ pages later these four friends are being signed up for the death row of p99 camps…

I bet you've seen people use pocket characters in the past. 500+ pages later and people still pretend they wouldn't be used in a static grpup.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet you've seen people use pocket characters in the past. 500+ pages later and people still pretend they wouldn't be used in a static grpup.

I don’t think the intent was to have one of every class parked for frequent buffs, rather the best four who could tackle the toughest stuff (or at least synergize well).

Looking back I see Crede went with Ench/Ench/Cleric/Mage at post #2. Here I thought my combo was wild.

I haven’t done many 2x ench four-man’s but lots of 2x ench and a priest (me) in Velks lower dogs and spiders. Well over 200 hours. I prefer cleric for obvious reasons and it allows a non-stop grind. I have done a torp shaman as well (tanking and not). I have done a 60 druid. I would personally in that camp still go with the Druid because slot1 Nature’s Touch will heal 50% faster than Chloroblast and either way the pets will have to be blurred to get their hps back.

In the rare situation where it’s easier to top off the pet’s HP’s, with torp 5000 hps is almost 2 minutes. I would rather ensure the enchanters have PoTG and just blast a pet with 5 ND’s and afk for like 7 minutes. All the while you can refresh the pet DS and BP click a Regrowth for the enchanters.

IMHO, YMMV.