OCCUPY WALLSTREET!

[purest]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're forgetting that Harrison's brother died fighting for your ability to live.

lmao fuck no he didn't retard

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's BS and you know it. People in California/Washington clearly have a different lifestyle from those in Tennessee/Kentucky. Why should they be ruled by laws mandated 2500 miles away by people with no knowledge of their day to day lives or no interest in learning about them?

The goal of politicians is to get richer by fleecing Americans, we can agree to that, yes? So don't even start on how they elect representatives and send them to DC. Without any knowledge of the views of the pollsters in KY/TN, this is purely hypothetical, but why should they get a say in whether or not gay marriage or recreational marijuana is legal in CA/WA?

They shouldn't. Neither should anybody in NY, TX, OH, WI, or FL.

We are more fractal now than we've ever been. There are some intrastate economies that are more powerful than ever (Texas), and some that are crumbling internally (California), so why should we trust someone from Massachusetts to try to fix either one?

I mean, I hear you dude, I understand the concept of the free market and how it is supposed to work.

I don't agree that it's OK that people from one state (which may not have the resources or specific leadership of a more prosperous state) to suffer huge losses while another (which probably does have resources and or better specific leadership) benefits.

Get those people who are doing well to do well for everyone. To do otherwise is immoral.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On behalf of the police/riot squads using force a lot of these protesting twerps have no fucking respect for them and it sickens me. Why are the men and woman in the blue uniform used as a scapegoat for the movement?

I'll tell you what. If i was a cop and one of these little bastards grabbed my cap and threw it on the floor I wouldn't hesitate to bludgeon them.

You're retarded.

The cops are supposed to protect people. RIOT cops are supposed to protect people from RIOTERS. What happened is that PEACEFUL PROTESTORS were subjected to LESS LETHAL WEAPONS.

There's an essential disconnect that people like you have which is called intentional ignorance, and it does absolutely no good to talk to you, so I'll end here with a rhetorical question for you to chew on:

Where were the RIOT cops when these assholes showed up at that mans funeral?

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get those people who are doing well to do well for everyone. To do otherwise is immoral.

It's just too big. The likelihood of corruption for anybody in such a powerful position is so overwhelming that there hasn't been a trustworthy person elected to congress/president since I can remember.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. To continue to feed it is immoral.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just too big. The likelihood of corruption for anybody in such a powerful position is so overwhelming that there hasn't been a trustworthy person elected to congress/president since I can remember.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. To continue to feed it is immoral.

Then we agree on several things.

It's an often (intentionally?) overlooked fact that the original goals and reasons for action of the people who were first dubbed "tea party" are often in direct agreement with what you hear listening to General Assemblies at occupy.

I honestly was all for tea partying before the right winger talk show pundits got their tentacles so firmly entrenched and changed the spirit of the movement.

I see that happening to occupy as well, but on a lesser scale because it seems that the premise in the first place is to oust the entire monster (right and center and left.. all different aspects of the same beast) as opposed to changing from within, which has been set up from the get up to be a great cup shuffle. No meaningful change in policy can be affected from within the current government system.

[valithteezee]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How exactly is bludgeoning justified by something as symbolic as stomping your hat? Where does it hurt or endanger you? It doesn't. Ever heard of appropriate force?

They're doing their job so you can have a peaceful protest and you fucking rip their hat off and throw it on the ground, and then proceed to STOMP on it?

Are you shitting me?

Should there be no consequence for such actions?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No meaningful change in policy can be affected from within the current government system.

Exactly. The people responsible for making those changes are the ones that stand to lose the most.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a tool of support of the empire.

Public works are a good thing. If you don't agree, walk on hiking trails and offroad everywhere. Also, dig a hole every time you need to take a shit.

Yeah.. Thought so.

You keep referencing things as black and white and creating straw man arguments to refute points I wasn't even stating, it's as bad as varloye.

Being against a strong central government that abuses taxpayer money as well as creating massive public works rather than states taking it upon themselves definitely means plumbing shouldn't exist anymore.

Here is some information:

I pay a private company for power.
I pay my local municipality for water (plumbing).
I pay a private company for my gas.

Should massive central government public works and federal income tax end, then states and the free market would supply what is demanded.

Also, what libertarians do you know who would support arresting an individual for marijuana use? It's an individuals right and responsibility.

[vaylorie]

Come on guys... the Occupy Wall Street people just love America and want to reform it. They are good people:

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're doing their job so you can have a peaceful protest and you fucking rip their hat off and throw it on the ground, and then proceed to STOMP on it?

Are you shitting me?

Should there be no consequence for such actions?

Allow me to remind you who enables the police to even have said job. Without a required presence at said rally, said officer would be at him, on his couch, lazing out next to Harrison. That's unpaid. Instead, he's being gifted potentially hundreds of hours of overtime, and some times hazard pay.

You should be happy that you're so lucky as to have your hat stomped.

That is, of course, unless you're one of the many people that are mentally ill and joined the police force strictly for the possibility of forcing your will on others. In which case, you need more than your hat stomped.