Are you kidding me?

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I don't really care for some of Aftermath, I find it ironic you calling Maner for "superiority complex", when you think you speak for all of BDA and they appointed you their spokesman.

The raid scene was never designed for this many people or guilds, as has been already stated. The ones that put in the effort for tracking and devote their lives to this game, should be rewarded more. There are plenty of ways to snipe mobs outside of ToV which will get you better at pulling and become more efficient.

I agree that every guild can kill any mob in the game, with the right numbers and time. The difference is there are guilds(A/A) that have more members with basic knowledge of games mechanics and how to kill these mobs more effectively. It isn't improbable to work your way up from Kunark mobs but everyone always wants to the newest and best gear and mobs. Shit just doesn't work that way.

I've seen forum bots make more coherent counterarguments than this guy. Your post is inexcusably awful. Redo it, and when you do try to have it address something actually said. The fact you think "more of" equals "virtually all of" or that it is "skill" determning anything (another replaceable line member who thinks his guildtag conferred on him magical abilities beyond other people?) is hilarious.

It's honestly like you are just picking up English now but don't yet have the skill to do more than type random words and hope they form a sentence.

[Lojik]

Full variance, +-7 days with chance for extended windows...but also sim repops 1-2 times a month (doubt staff would do more than that.)

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a spot in a rotation should only be held by a raid force capable of beating the target.

Of course. The question is whether that raid force should be capable of defeating that dragon at 4AM on Christmas Eve.

[Gimp]

Arguing about all this dumb shit while we should all be thinking about how many happy hour margaritas we're gonna have after work

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Arguing about all this dumb shit while we should all be thinking about how many happy hour margaritas we're gonna have after work

The reality is that I'll probably pass out on the couch while watching Thomas and Friends: Day of the Diesels.

[xexbis0]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course. The question is whether that raid force should be capable of defeating that dragon at 4AM on Christmas Eve.

It's never made sense to lump all raid forces together in the same tier. Nor should the lesser tier be entitled to certain zones or mobs. It's the easiest and only way a rotation would get done.

I truly fail to see where C/R/FFA failed other than those banging the drum that the rotation fell apart. That very same rotation with ToV being the new VP would work splendidly. There's only 3 separate entities capable of killing Velious mobs. There's no reason to force an R rotation and frankly there's no one outside of those 3 R entities even close to being able to kill King Tormax/CT/Yelinak etc. Every single R class guild gets what they want. BDA has the force to kill and doesn't have to track...much. CSG can crawl all they want in their 4 hours or whatever. Anon/Div don't really have a stance and prefer to stay low. They can just do their thing and take the pressure off the goals of their collective moving forward.

And they won't be in your precious ToV zone at all. Best of all. They don't have a say in what you do. They can't complain. They can't plop at 4 way. Race/CoTH? Not up to them. Communicating with them? Nope. Training them? Nope. I highly doubt you would even see the majority of the FFA mobs contested at all by anyone but Awakened/Aftermath. The R guilds would have their own goals to focus on, primarily making sure they are ready when their number is called for certain mobs every 9 weeks.

EXTRA BONUS: Class R would be locked out of certain epic mobs, allowing Class C to truly have a shot at their Green Scales, White Scales, Wiz Staff, Fay Water, etc.

P.S. - Can we please make golems raid mobs? These temple squatters are craziness.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ones that put in the effort for tracking and devote their lives to this game, should be rewarded more. There are plenty of ways to snipe mobs outside of ToV which will get you better at pulling and become more efficient.

The forums depress me sometimes - might be time to evac out of Norrath

[snead]

Originally Posted by Pezy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSG got an Ikatiar FTE this week, but were unable to even get him engaged before their hour passed and Awakened sniped it from them.

I agree though, the only thing that can come even close to fixing the raid scene are weekly quakes. Remove all 7 day boss respawn timers, have like a 24 hour window every Sunday or whatever for the quake to happen, keep the current FTE rules I guess to make things slightly less chaotic...

Seems pretty simple, no? Who would have an issue with this? Everyone gets mobs, much less burnout and socking, seems like a win to me.

+1

[vampyro]

Could always open another TOV zone so there is 2 and do a rotation. After all, nothing is classic about this server.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just for clarity, not in A/A or any high end raiding guild anymore.

Left Awakened eh?