The Sleeper to be awoken tonight in Rampage's final raid.

[Naethyn]

New to the raid scene since November. The professionalism of Rampage was the biggest draw. It didn't take long at all to see Forsaken's leadership consistently act like children. I would be embarrassed to follow Detoxx and so should you.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Taken immediately left the zone when we got DQ'd from Yelinak and did not in any way assist Rampage with that kill. We did not coth anyone, we did not heal or buff anyone, we did not do damage to or debuff Yeli at all, and we did not take a single pixel from the killing of that mob.

Prove that Asgard was not on any of the encounter logs for you suspended mobs, did not assist you in any way, and did not receive even one single pixel from each of them?

Maybe then we can talk about how the situations are comparable.

Doesn't matter if you left the zone. YOU were one of THEIR trackers. The normal course of action is for both guilds to concede and leave. Rampage didn't in this situation. Yet somehow it was OK ? I mean you guys can't really be defending this in front of the server can you ?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you avoiding what I am asking ? Why spin and deflect your blame ?

What are you asking I alrdy explained how those situations are completely different and provided an example of how it should function properly with the draco suspension of Taken/Rampage.

You insisting that 'we continued to the encounter' is false - we vacated the zone the second Breaken got FTE and believe me we were pissed about it. That was our Yelinak head on rotation!

and the other thing about tracking - I alrdy said we immediately vacated the encounter meaning Breaken didnt assist after that point of FTE so the tracking he did prior to the spawn time is irrelevant bc the violation occurred at the pop and we acted accordingly.

I am not trying to break down why or not why those Forsaken suspensions are just or not - I would just want to see consistency for guilds who take part in joint kills IE the encounter ( slaying ) and the spoils ( looting ) be punished as 1.

[Erati]

work flew by - see everyone in Norrath

move this to RnF

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you asking I alrdy explained how those situations are completely different and provided an example of how it should function properly with the draco suspension of Taken/Rampage.

You insisting that 'we continued to the encounter' is false - we vacated the zone the second Breaken got FTE and believe me we were pissed about it. That was our Yelinak head on rotation!

and the other thing about tracking - I alrdy said we immediately vacated the encounter meaning Breaken didnt assist after that point of FTE so the tracking he did prior to the spawn time is irrelevant bc the violation occurred at the pop and we acted accordingly.

I am not trying to break down why or not why those Forsaken suspensions are just or not - I would just want to see consistency for guilds who take part in joint kills IE the encounter ( slaying ) and the spoils ( looting ) be punished as 1.

Yet, you can clearly see the infractions that happened and don't get punished correct ? Why not say "If you guys got punished for that so we should have been punished for this". It has to raise questions for why you weren't. All I want is consistency too and it isn't there.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

work flew by - see everyone in Norrath

move this to RnF

Same actually. See you guys later.

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet, you can clearly see the infractions that happened and don't get punished correct ? Why not say "If you guys got punished for that so we should have been punished for this". It has to raise questions for why you weren't. All I want is consistency too and it isn't there.

You talk about consistency while we are eating 2 raid suspensions for a Draco in our camp engaged while we AE'd down the adds. We had plenty of people on the encounter log and we still got in trouble. While Asgard is free from punishment on said mobs when they clearly assisted in the kill and benefited from the loot.

[colicab]

Lets both admit that ToV is not designed for two raids of 100+ people each especially with the monstrosity of train ups/downs that have been created.

I know I am in the camp of root all the things... This server would fuck that up too though, I am quite sure of that.

[colicab]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You talk about consistency while we are eating 2 raid suspensions for a Draco in our camp engaged while we AE'd down the adds. We had plenty of people on the encounter log and we still got in trouble. While Asgard is free from punishment on said mobs when they clearly assisted in the kill and benefited from the loot.

Excellent point. Seeing as this is every single CT encounter... AoE adds while CT is tanked. Interesting...

[Argh]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

<idiots and savages>, duh

Batphoning argh as we speak

Watch out ec tunnel

Glory awaits.