NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

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Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think sam seder is unintelligent but that's kind of why he's so frustrating, he just lockstep adheres to liberal orthodoxy even when it's so insane that I can't believe he doesn't know better.

I think people could learn a lot from his communication style in debates. He speaks slowly, his tone is measured, and I personally think tone is important. If anything, if you don’t want to be interrupted or shut down when attempting to make a point, the more I would say “disinterested” or “dispassionate” you can make your tone, the better. Passion and anger to me is a very ugly look in debates, it shows a lack of control. And since you are trying to persuade the audience to see your point, being bullish just makes them mentally defensive

He also scores points for asking lots of clarifying questions. I would say he is a better debater than Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks. The only areas where I would put her ahead is she is much more attractive (although needs to tone down the damn makeup, Jesus), and she makes concessions. I haven’t heard Sam make a concession ever

Too many concessions makes you look weak to the audience. Too few and you seem close-minded

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Oh and the phrasing of a clarifying question is everything. Clarifying with the correct phrasing implies “I want to understand you better on this”, and in a non-condescending way (which is crucial), but most debaters prefer to try to “clarify” by doing some stupid fuckin gotcha “OH SO YOU MEAN [this]?!”

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The truly scary part of all of this is Lune is a smart guy, he’s clearly not a low-IQ type. Smart people are blind to this mirage. If that doesn’t scare you…

Homesteaded here proving the Dunning-Kruger effect is real

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Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Homesteaded here proving the Dunning-Kruger effect is real

Dunning-Kruger means people who know less know more. Also ur a cargo cult.

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The other reason why I think concessions seem to be a lost art of debates is that you are not 100% right on every point you’re making. The audience knows you’re not right on 100% of the things you say. They just don’t know which things you aren’t right about (sometimes they do)

So if you never concede “ok that is correct” or “ok that is a fair point” or “ok I might be wrong on that point” then in addition to looking close-minded the audience is also suspecting somewhere in all those facts were lies

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha sure okay it was uncommon except for literally hillary clinton, who is the person who lost, and joe biden, the current president, and kamala harris, the sitting vice president. Other than them yeah it was so uncommon! Good lord man, you don't *have to* defend these cretins.

iirc Hillary Clinton's complaint was largely about the timing of Comey's laptop shit. I'm not a fan of any of these people...

You do realize I despise the Democratic party as well, right? Like Origen said, it's just that the alternative is an even bigger dumpster fire.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrats who claimed the 2016 election was stolen or otherwise unfairly won, would be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Homesteaded here proving the Dunning-Kruger effect is real

Sorry I didn’t use you as my example, you don’t fit though.

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Most alt-right folks here seem to assume that anyone who is critical of the right is a democrat supporter.

Don't help the alt-right by telling them if and when they happen to be accidentally correct about their sloppy critique of the Democrats. The Democrats are a right-wing party. Let them fight.

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry I didn’t use you as my example, you don’t fit though.

It's okay, if a person like you ever praises me I've made a mistake.

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Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's okay, if a person like you ever praises me I've made a mistake.

I appreciate your commitment to replying with a consistent message. Racism, facism, white supremacy, the message is clear and consistent.