NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shirtless pics.

we sure do love tiddies

[unsunghero]

Meh, if you don’t eventually also show legs (and not just calves) people might wonder if you have something to hide

I used to not be proud of my legs, until I put the work in

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Left he is alt right.

That's Baler for you!

Lol sam seder

If being alt right now means being like basically sane and normal, sure I guess I'm alt right

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol sam seder

If being alt right now means being like basically sane and normal, sure I guess I'm alt right

This is the problem with identity politics; obsession with labeling. So I'll make it simple. If you spend 100% of your time bitching about liberals, you're gonna get lumped in with other people who spend 100% of their time bitching about liberals.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Left he is alt right.

That's Baler for you!

I actually kinda like Sam Seder as a person, I dunno why

I would like to debate him on some things tho. Like I know it’s hard to pick a perfectly fitting analogy on the spur of a moment, but right off the bat in the video he compares a trans person asking for the pronouns to be respected to any other adult who politely asks to be called by a different name. Like I don’t go by “x” anymore, please call me “y”, usually a reversal of their formal or nickname

And that’s fine, that analogy fits. What really matters is what happens if neither request is respected. For example, if I don’t like someone who goes by “James” and hates being called Jim, I might just call him Jim. Why? Because, fuck Jim. I’d call him James if he was my friend and I liked him, but if I didn’t like him, why would I honor his request?

And then what happens to me if I don’t? Well, James would be pissed at me but that’s it. I wouldn’t lose my job. I wouldn’t be threatened with arrest. I wouldn’t be accused of violence towards Jim

So while the requests are similar, refusal creates very different consequences. Refusing one is much worse than refusing another, I think everyone can agree on that

And since I don’t have time atm to finish the rest of the Sam Seder video, let’s watch a classic clip of a newscaster who had beef with sportsball player deliberately calling him by the wrong name:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the problem with identity politics; obsession with labeling. So I'll make it simple. If you spend 100% of your time bitching about liberals, you're gonna get lumped in with other people who spend 100% of their time bitching about liberals.

Cool that's great but you didn't really touch on the nearly endless compilation of dems denying the 2016 election and insisting voting machines are ripe for fraud that jimmy dore played. I was kind of hoping *somebody* would attempt to explain that but so far nobody has touched it with a ten foot pole here.

He did mention their official excuse though, which was "well, in 2016 it was a problem, but then they totally fixed it for 2020".

Like yeah I'm sure it took until the year 2020 for one of the tech engineers in charge of the most consequential election in the world to learn about the concept of hacking, which has been well known and understood since the inception of computer networks in like the late 1970's.

I think maybe it's more likely that dems are just power hungry two faced corrupt assholes who have absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the average american, just like all politicians.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool that's great but you didn't really touch on the nearly endless compilation of dems denying the 2016 election and insisting voting machines are ripe for fraud that jimmy dore played. I was kind of hoping *somebody* would attempt to explain that but so far nobody has touched it with a ten foot pole here.

He did mention their official excuse though, which was "well, in 2016 it was a problem, but then they totally fixed it for 2020".

Like yeah I'm sure it took until the year 2020 for one of the tech engineers in charge of the most consequential election in the world to learn about the concept of hacking, which has been well known and understood since the inception of computer networks in like the late 1970's.

I think maybe it's more likely that dems are just power hungry two faced corrupt assholes who have absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the average american, just like all politicians.

I think they’re claiming it stolen not due to hacks, but due to those tiny worthless inconsequential “rallies” staged by Russian provocateurs that had like less than 40 people ever come to

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to debate him on some things tho. Like I know it’s hard to pick a perfectly fitting analogy on the spur of a moment, but right off the bat in the video he compares a trans person asking for the pronouns to be respected to any other adult who politely asks to be called by a different name. Like I don’t go by “x” anymore, please call me “y”, usually a reversal of their formal or nickname

Yeah that's an insane analogy for so many reasons. People don't call you a nazi if you don't use somebody's preferred nickname. There aren't entire state legislatures in the US trying to make it a criminal offense not to use somebody's preferred nickname, which is already a crime in parts of canada. And nobody tries to emotionally blackmail you with the threat of suicide if you don't use their preferred nickname.

I don't think sam seder is unintelligent but that's kind of why he's so frustrating, he just lockstep adheres to liberal orthodoxy even when it's so insane that I can't believe he doesn't know better.

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they’re claiming it stolen not due to hacks, but due to those tiny worthless inconsequential “rallies” staged by Russian provocateurs that had like less than 40 people ever come to

In that video I posted he plays like ten clips of dems specifically saying the voting machines being used in the 2016 election were highly vulnerable to hacking. But yeah also a bunch of russia conspiracy horseshit. They just threw out a huge hodgepodge of allegations cause they lost, but then in 2020 when they won they made it borderline criminal to say the exact same things they were saying five seconds ago. I don't understand how anyone still supports these people.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool that's great but you didn't really touch on the nearly endless compilation of dems denying the 2016 election and insisting voting machines are ripe for fraud that jimmy dore played. I was kind of hoping *somebody* would attempt to explain that but so far nobody has touched it with a ten foot pole here.

He did mention their official excuse though, which was "well, in 2016 it was a problem, but then they totally fixed it for 2020".

Like yeah I'm sure it took until the year 2020 for one of the tech engineers in charge of the most consequential election in the world to learn about the concept of hacking, which has been well known and understood since the inception of computer networks in like the late 1970's.

I think maybe it's more likely that dems are just power hungry two faced corrupt assholes who have absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the average american, just like all politicians.

It was uncommon for Democrats to say the 2016 election was stolen. The rhetoric was more about it being influenced, which is a pretty indisputable fact, and the conclusion of our own intelligence agencies.

Democrats who claimed the 2016 election was stolen or otherwise unfairly won, would be wrong. (Though I do have some things to say about fairness and the electoral college, that's a separate issue).

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand how anyone still supports these people.

Considering the alternative, I think you understand just fine