And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because TMO does things a certain way does not make it the only way. We had 2 guilds together (30+ people), we had a chance to pull it, we pulled it, and got fte. They rushed in and our bow tagger did not take a shot due to it. From now on if there is even the slightest question on FTE we will absolutely do damage to it.

If it was so legit, why did one of the guilds in your force denounce loot rights and duck out, as this was not the way they do things?

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you did pull it, you would have taken the first DT as well.

The first DT has nothing to do with pulling or not pulling CT. Did you take Alartis drugs?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first DT has nothing to do with pulling or not pulling CT. Did you take Alartis drugs?

if you were pulling it, your puller would have been on the encounter log.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you were pulling it, your puller would have been on the encounter log.

doesn't matter.

DTs have been ruled against as being FTE many times, not sure why anyone would have thought that it would have been this time either.


Sochin went for FTE snipe, got DT'd and you guys thought he failed, some how guide says he got FTE with a DT, your guild immediately goes... oh, we were pulling it... soandso was running to it... we had mysterious bowman on the grassy hill, but he sucks at coordinating dt/pull tactics that everyone in the raiding scene knows how to properly do.


yea, I'm gonna drinking this kool-aid.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was so legit, why did one of the guilds in your force denounce loot rights and duck out, as this was not the way they do things?

If one guild chooses to abandon a claim on loot based on FTE because 'it is not the way they do things', it is of no consequence to how FTE is itself determined and whether FTE was indeed attained.

[Shinko]

stealin can i have some

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Shinko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stealin can i have some

You guys need me to help you lawyer.

Pay me $150/month and I'll help you win all these silly disputes.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

doesn't matter.

DTs have been ruled against as being FTE many times, not sure why anyone would have thought that it would have been this time either.


Sochin went for FTE snipe, got DT'd and you guys thought he failed, some how guide says he got FTE with a DT, your guild immediately goes... oh, we were pulling it... soandso was running to it... we had mysterious bowman on the grassy hill, but he sucks at coordinating dt/pull tactics that everyone in the raiding scene knows how to properly do.


yea, I'm gonna drinking this kool-aid.

The DT is not what determined FTE. The DT has no bearing on FTE unless aggro is gained before it occurs. People get killed all the time fighting raid mobs - the way they are killed is completely irrelevant to their position on the aggro list generated by that mobs death. The order of things are thus:

1. Scorchin was first on CT's aggro list - that is, he got FTE based upon Rogean's definition.

2. TMO engages CT.

3. Scorchin is DTed.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The DT is not what determined FTE. The DT has no bearing on FTE unless aggro is gained before it occurs. People get killed all the time fighting raid mobs - the way they are killed is completely irrelevant to their position on the aggro list generated by that mobs death. The order of things are thus:

1. Scorchin was first on CT's aggro list - that is, he got FTE based upon Rogean's definition.

2. TMO engages CT.

3. Scorchin is DTed.

No one knew that until after it was announced.

[Alarti0001]

1. Drui gets DT'd

2. Scorchin gets DT'd

3. TMO engages

4. FE sits on thumbs

FTFY