monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[Snaggles]

Not that the first few pages were bad. Someone needed an answer and most of us said the same thing.

[Jimjam]

Theory is derived from observation and tested by data?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theory is derived from observation and tested by data?

Exactly! For people interested in that process and how the damage formula probably works, please read this post. Troxx will keep denying it simply because he doesn't like when he is wrong. He doesn't have a better equation or argument right now:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theory is derived from observation and tested by data?

People miscalculate, use incorrect tools, and incorrect/outdated logic all the time.

Go ahead and dive into medical techniques from 200 years ago. Luckily being wrong about how to apply dps to non-trivial targets in an elf sim has never given someone a lobotomy. Outside maybe reading a couple forum posts like this one.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People miscalculate, use incorrect tools, and incorrect/outdated logic all the time.

Indeed. Incorrect tools like Gamparse and outdated logic from when people played live are often in play when discussing P99. That is why I focus on how P99 works specifically, using raw logs from P99. That is the best way to figure out who is correct when looking at how P99 works.

I am not really interested in how people think it should work. I leave it to other posters to find evidence from live to support their claims P99 should work one way or the other.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect tools like Gamparse and

You haven't used it ever have you?

It is shockingly accurate for individual fights. It's a great tool and, I'd wager, far more accurate than whatever you do with a raw log and a calculator.

The only problem it has is when you highlight dozens of fights and hit the *combine* button. It still spits out accurate totals but you can't count on the calculated dps from there.

But ... you haven't used it ever have you?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is shockingly accurate...

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5732

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep and the same parses [from Gamparse] showed a level 60 monk with Fist of Nature and 15/20 priceless wraps doing only 48dps [which is lower than Troxx expected]. I told you then and I'll tell you AGAIN that when you combine a whole wad of single fights into one composite fight that it [Gamparse] skews everything badly.

Shockingly accurate indeed. If the program cannot parse certain scenarios correctly, I do not trust it to parse other scenarios correctly. It's really that simple.

You know what is accurate 100% of the time? Providing raw logs and having multiple people parse them. When everybody has the data, they can double check your work. You and Bcbrown do that often!

When we don't have the logs, we have to trust a program that is proven to parse incorrectly at times. I don't know why you cling to a broken program so tightly.

[Troxx]

ok

lol?

[Snaggles]

Everyone here is just trying to figure out what is correct.
Time and time again it seems you are trying to justify you are correct.
These two concepts sound similar but ideologically they are not the same.

Luckily, condescension from someone bragging about level 5 turtle 10-key parses because they don’t trust log files and Gameparse doesn’t sting that badly.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone here is just trying to figure out what is correct.
Time and time again it seems you are trying to justify you are correct.
These two concepts sound similar but ideologically they are not the same.

Luckily, condescension from someone bragging about level 5 turtle 10-key parses because they don’t trust log files and Gameparse doesn’t sting that badly.

When did I say I don't trust log files? What have you been reading? Log files are always reliable as long as they aren't tampered with. That's why I ask for log files.

Gamparse doesn't always work correctly. Troxx admitted as much. Why trust a program that only sometimes works? Give us the log files so we can make sure Gamparse didn't make a mistake.

I am not sure what forum you are reading to be honest. Either you are trolling or have reading comprehension issues. You have the situation completely reversed.

I am the one actually trying to figure out what is correct using the scientific method. Why do you think I have my Youtube channel? It's so I can post real data to support my positions. Most posters here don't do that at all.

Time and time again posters like Troxx supply no data to back up their claims, and then insult/lie about/spam/troll anyone who disagrees with them. They are the ones trying to justify they are correct without merit.

I am the one who is supplying detailed data and building a theory around what the damage formula looks like. I am using real P99 data and code from the EQEMU.

For people interested in that, please read this post:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440