Raid Suspension: The Mystical Order

[Vyal]

So if I am understanding this right if someone got pissed of in Chardok
they could pull say Korocust into the Chardok trains then sit at entrance forget to clear agro then when everyone dies they could petition and get everyone else banned?
Just seems like theres a new rule being set here that makes no sense....

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 trash mob summoned all our tanks and made Cazic run across the zone to that trash mob on the last repop CT. It caused a wipe with Cazic at 2%. It was funny to watch it happen in retrospect. But with this ruling that was handed down by Sirken and Derubel it makes it a viable option to kill another guild and have the other guild at fault for their deaths and the deaths of people that were killing the trash mob.

No one is forcing the second guild to engage CT while the first guild is in zone/killing trash.

[Socratic]

Btw a lot of these essays are here because people like you are too fucking stupid to see the consequences of your short-sighted dimwitted ideas regarding the ruling principles that govern decisions that affect dozens of people trying to compete here.

In other words. If you weren't so fucking dumb then there would be a lot less to post.

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if I am understanding this right if someone got pissed of in Chardok
they could pull say Korocust into the Chardok trains then sit at entrance forget to clear agro then when everyone dies they could petition and get everyone else banned?
Just seems like theres a new rule being set here that makes no sense....

i think this guy keeps getting dumber with each post, or is it just me

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Socratic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other words. If you weren't so fucking dumb then there would be a lot less to post.

and if you guys weren't such fucking assholes, there wouldn't be any issues to begin with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Socratic]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is forcing the second guild to engage CT while the first guild is in zone/killing trash.

The point is that this would allow anyone to effectively wipe another guild's raid AND get them suspended for merely engaging CT. Grats exploitable petition-quest?

No one is forcing the other guild to engage a trash mob and make it summon during the ~1 minute that CT is engaged either.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is forcing the second guild to engage CT while the first guild is in zone/killing trash.

Oh I agree. However now one guild can sit in Fear and say "We are clearing every bit of the trash please don't touch CT and make him summon us" and delay any guild from killing CT until they can feel they can get him dead and not kill the other group.

[Rais]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 trash mob summoned all our tanks and made Cazic run across the zone to that trash mob on the last repop CT. It caused a wipe with Cazic at 2%. It was funny to watch it happen in retrospect. But with this ruling that was handed down by Sirken and Derubel it makes it a viable option to kill another guild and have the other guild at fault for their deaths and the deaths of people that were killing the trash mob.

That must of sucked. As much as you think I'm against TMO I have agreed that it was a iffy situation and I personally would have called it a wash since both guilds were training around. When a member of the guild accused comes out and says " hey ya, shit happens. Our puller most likely caused it when they died training" then that's it.

I posted how I feel fear/cazic engages should be like. You may like it or not, but that's the only other feaseable way to minimize any "shit happened" situations.

Socratic

You can keep posting your rage posts every where. All of this is stupid on both parties. Don't train shit, and shit won't happen. Sounds like a easy solution to me. There has been a number of times where TMO had been petitioned on about training, and Sirken ruled it was a bad situation and not controllable. So to say this situation happens all the time and to be so upset about it is overboard. They do take into consideration the situation.

Wasn't IB suspended for training you guys with a dragon also? Why is it now ok and the other people should watch their aggro? Don't focus on the training part, focus on the punishment that was different.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by TMBLOW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

heres a thought:

instead of training every GD mob that exists maybe clear some stuff once in a while....

you know....like what was intended.

Sure lets walk into VP and clear 2 minute respawns forever and never kill dragons.

[Socratic]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and if you guys weren't such fucking assholes, there wouldn't be any issues to begin with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your guild was suspended because some idiots in another guild pulled through your mobs and trained themselves you might be a little angry too. I guess if we weren't "assholes" then we'd just die on the cross like we were told to.