2020 Election MEGAthread

[White_knight]

Social media IS the new slavery.

I quit Facebook 10 years ago, nothing in my life changed apart from not knowing who the fuckbois and fuckgurls were fucking.

[douglas1999]

I got PROOF that the cops are hunting us down, also check out my soundcloud and instagram @lilpoopoo69

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by White_knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Social media IS the new slavery.

I quit Facebook 10 years ago, nothing in my life changed apart from not knowing who the fuckbois and fuckgurls were fucking.

Man I didn't really know that fuckboi's actually got to fuck people and that there were fuckgurls too. I have a lot more respect for them now.

[White_knight]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hahahah, AOC apparently wants to make a literal list of anyone who supported trump or donated to him in 2016 or 2020. Gee, there's absolutely nothing creepy about that at all. Nothing nazi like, or soviet like, or north korea like at all about such a proposition. No parallells at all.

Crazy lefties that populate the Dems party.

[White_knight]

I think all this election really proves is that the electoral system sucks - it's 2020, how come there isn't a uniform ID based system yet?

Here in Aus you show up with your Drivers Licence, and you get ticked off a list before voting...that list is then run thru a computer that will count it against other ballot locations and if you have voted 2x or more times your vote is invalid.

Key part there is photo, and licence id #.

Hmmkay maybe the yee old straw poll system America is using needs an upgrade.

[Gustoo]

After the civil war, the union massively expanded federal power over the states, however we do still have a relatively in tact federal system that does create some challenges consolidating data. This is good for the flexibility of our systems and network in that it means there are many redundancies. It is bad for other things. The states themselves are responsible for managing their elections. The fact that the states control their own elections does a lot to prevent a demagogue like Donald Trump have undue influence over the election. If the voting system were consolidated at the federal level in the way you suggest, the system would be more susceptible to fraud. There is very little voter fraud in the united states, and the system is quite robust. When the president himself invents and then supports his own conspiracy theories it makes non existent problems that should be easy to solve look like they exist and should be solved.

The system works fine. The only difference is that there are more mail in votes than normal because of coronavirus, which is the only thing that makes counting different and slower than normal. Plus all the lawsuits.



Besides everything, the most harmful thing that ol' trump does is degrade the strength of the institutions of the USA for his own short term political gains. He has truly degraded the nation in this way.

[Jibartik]

I just watched a documentary on the illuminati and now im convinced its all their doing.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by White_knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think all this election really proves is that the electoral system sucks - it's 2020, how come there isn't a uniform ID based system yet?

Here in Aus you show up with your Drivers Licence, and you get ticked off a list before voting...that list is then run thru a computer that will count it against other ballot locations and if you have voted 2x or more times your vote is invalid.

Key part there is photo, and licence id #.

Hmmkay maybe the yee old straw poll system America is using needs an upgrade.

The individual states need to have weighted rights. That’s why the electoral college exists. I am in favor of keeping it.

[Jibartik]

Sorry let me introduce you to the new United State of America.

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[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're just conflating every historical example of bad behavior on the part of conservatives as if it's still widely representative today

It is still widely representative today, open your eyes. Who are the people saying Mexicans or whatever other non-white ethnicity are ruining America? Who are the people doing mass shootings targeted at these groups? Who are the ones saying cops and society has a whole has no prejudice and these minorities are simply whining (there's so much of that trash in this thread alone)? Who are the people that still say "gays are going to hell"? Who are the ones that can't fucking understand the difference between communism and socialism? Who are the ones that don't understand their own ingrained misogyny and cave-man like ideas of "how men should act"?

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a big part of my problem with what the left has become in the last 15 years, this self congratulatory assumption that they are the "good guys", and they have some kind of monopoly on what constitutes "justice". Taking money from rich people who haven't done anything wrong to aquire it, for example, is not "just" in many people's minds. Many on the modern left confuse hating the rich for caring about the poor.

Rich people have done something "wrong" to get that wealth. Money is a social fabrication and the only way for someone to be that wealthy (aside from a couple very rare scenarios) is for a massive amount of other people to contribute to creating the product they are selling. In pretty much all cases, the amount paid towards labor and materials is lower than it really should be, and the amount of work being done by the person at the top is extremely disproportionate compared to what they are earning. Furthermore, once you have a large amount of money/success, you're able to use it to manipulate the system itself: being able pay for lobbying/publicity to warp public awareness in your favor, forcing other competition out, getting things for free.

And that's really just the most honest outcome of extreme wealth acquisition. More often than not, these entities are outright exploiting people in order to create their wealth. Whether it's lying about the effectiveness of their product, or lying about the competition, or hiding harmful side effects, or using planned/perceived obsolescence to force people to buy more, or cheating on contracts, or 3rd world labor/supply, or fucking Monsanto-like practices of forcing your shit on someone else's space and then saying you have a right to own them.

That doesn't even get into the environmental destruction created by the chase for money, and how humanity itself is catering to the lowest common denominator by blindly following unchecked capitalism. If a company can push out a ton of a shitty product and force everyone to buy it because there is no better available alternative, they will make a bunch of money for doing do so, but they are not actually contributing something good (or something better) to the world. They are simply using this fabricated thing called money to dominate a market and undeservedly empower themselves to stay at the top.

Then there's also the problem of generational wealth. Hundreds of years ago, for example, certain individuals were simply given huge amounts of land in our country. Their descendants have been born into massive wealth without having to do anything. Why do such people deserve to live in extreme comfort and privilege, while millions of others suffer? They don't deserve to, is the answer, and it's something that needs to be balanced in society.

No individual "needs" to have 100 million dollars either. If someone is making that much money, why can't they be content with just taking in 10 million instead (the rest going to taxes that are used to unselfishly be put towards the betterment of humanity)? Someone at that amount of wealth is still going to have a crazy amount more than just about everyone else. There's no reason they need to be sitting on endless piles of money. Humans are inherently selfish beings and as a society it should be our goal to curb that selfishness, by directly instituting practices/laws that fight against it. The same as penalties for drunk driving or whatever else. Destructive practices need to be addressed and fixed, in whatever form they come in. Wealth is a toxic fabrication/obsession of humans. We desire endless expansion but such a thing is impossible, certainly on one little planet.