Red99 Stimulus Plan (some constructive feedback)

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not Wehrmahct

I wasn't 100% sure if you were Wehrmacht or not, but I'm going to keep calling you Wehrmacht because if you dig deep in these forums you'll find he's the only other person dumb enough to suggest putting half elves and trolls on the same team. You also both share that annoying trait where you don't respond to the bulk of what others say when you argue with them.

My post wasn't about balance, it was about lore and classicness, which are two points you lose on. Having dark elves with high elves is horrible for lore:

Innoruuk discovered Norrath shortly after the First Pact of the Gods. He was infuriated when he discovered that his fellow gods had populated a world and formed a pact without his knowledge. His rage focused on Tunare, as he sought his revenge at her expense. Innoruuk corrupted the first King and Queen of Tunare's beloved Elves. He took them into his Plane of Hate and tortured them for 300 years, twisting them and slowly filling them with hate, until he finally had the beginnings of his contribution to Norrath - a sinister race known as the Teir'Dal, or dark elves.

Yeah, I could totally imagine high elves being on the same team as dark elves, both unable to kill each other. That makes a lot of sense and would be great for my immersion.

As for balance, sorry to be flippant, but who gives a fuck? The independent variable that decides whether a single team dominates the server is the skill of the players on that team and the number of players on that team. It has little to do with class selection. Didn't the evil team win SZ, despite not having Bards, pallies, rangers, druids, etc.? (EDIT: it was pointed out that I was completely wrong about this; sorry, I didn't play on SZ. I believe my point still stands though and that the evil team's success wasn't because of class selection)

Lastly, you can't just add teams after the server has been FFA for so long. You would either (a) have guilds composed of members of more than one team, which is dumb, or (b) break up guilds previously composed of members of more than one team - in other words, EVERY SINGLE GUILD. I would lose pretty much all of my officers except Nellodee (since half elves and gnomes are all on the same team - nevermind the fact that Nell is evil and I'm not). It would be devastating for the server. If ruining the server were its own video game, your idea would be the final boss.

PS: Disagreeing with you doesn't make me a troll.

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Half of the people on red would be a lot more enjoyable if they were forced to roleplay their race

[Cast]

0% chance I read the above 2 pages of posts by Slave and Lazortag, confirmed retard helmet wearers

[Doublestep]

Originally Posted by Cast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't read, therefore, anyone who can write is a helmet wearer.

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[Softcore PK]

SZ evil team got bards fyi :P

[SamwiseRed]

if i remember right which i prob dont but teams were...
wood/high/halfelf
gnome/dwarf/halfling
ogre/troll/dark elf/iksar
human/barb/erudite

I still have no idea how ogres and wood elves are in the same team but lolz

[Softcore PK]

SZ evil team did well because pvp gamers seem to enjoy RPing evil more than good. imo

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SZ evil team did well because pvp gamers seem to enjoy RPing evil more than good. imo

PvP gamers enjoy winning and powergaming; being the best is the end-all and be-all of what most of us do. You cannot say that there were not 'evil' players on Neutral and Good... RPing is not a major factor for players of PvP.

It is very easy to see that Evil won because of the class/race balance, and nothing more. If you believe otherwise, you are ignoring a preponderance of evidence for your own ill-considered opinion.

edit: added "ill-considered" due to the revelation that you work for Lazortag.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

edit: added "ill-considered" due to the revelation that you work for Lazortag.

oh my god, you are actually crazy.