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Old 03-30-2024, 06:15 AM
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In the game from which Brad McQuaid copied almost everything when he made EQ (SojournMUD, since renamed TorilMUD), shadowknights (there called anti-paladins) were only allowed to be human. As such, it is the morally correct choice. Only humans have the concept of knighthood. It's the original D&D-based canon that EQ plagiarized wholesale.

But human isn't mechanically optimal. Ogre is, unless you play SSF, and then it's troll or iksar.

Mechanically, human is shit. Canonically, it should have been the only eligible race. I went with human, but ogre is just better.
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Old 03-30-2024, 12:36 PM
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In the game from which Brad McQuaid copied almost everything when he made EQ (SojournMUD, since renamed TorilMUD)
How did enchanters play on the mud? Mez, lull, memblur, charm, etc.
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Old 04-03-2024, 08:41 AM
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How did enchanters play on the mud? Mez, lull, memblur, charm, etc.
There was no concept of lull and memblur since a MUD doesn't really work like that, but enchanters' main function was sleep (i.e. mez), haste, charm, and casting stoneskin on tanks (or whoever) which absorbed a lot of damage, like the rune line in EQ but stronger. Same general role as in EQ, but there was no mana, spell memorization worked like in D&D, so no clarity. Basically, imagine if enchanters in EQ didn't have clarity but the rune spells were five times stronger.
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Old 04-03-2024, 08:08 PM
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There was no concept of lull and memblur since a MUD doesn't really work like that
Wait, there was no such thing as aggro in the game EQ was completely ripped off from?
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Old 04-04-2024, 10:55 AM
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Wait, there was no such thing as aggro in the game EQ was completely ripped off from?
There is aggro, there just isn't any such thing as a mob aggro radius that can be reduced because it's not a 3D graphical game.
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Old 03-30-2024, 10:37 AM
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Casually geared the small races lack a lot of stamina and strength. Capping Str with just focus isn’t easy.

In the end though an aggro tank just needs hit points/ac and passable resists. Plus with p99 it’s rare to find someone with just one character so swapping to a different more optimized character is often an option.

With a knight I’d selfishly play whatever race you want. In the end, they all do the job and for raiding often aren’t the best character to bring.
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Old 03-30-2024, 11:06 AM
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Casually geared the small races lack a lot of stamina and strength. Capping Str with just focus isn’t easy.

In the end though an aggro tank just needs hit points/ac and passable resists. Plus with p99 it’s rare to find someone with just one character so swapping to a different more optimized character is often an option.

With a knight I’d selfishly play whatever race you want. In the end, they all do the job and for raiding often aren’t the best character to bring.
If you have a Shaman who is giving you focus, you can get maniacal strength too. That is 135 STR from both. Lowest SK starting strength is 70, so 205 STR before gear. It's easy to get 50 STR on tank gear.

Shouldn't be an issue with buff limit either.
1. Junk
2. Junk
3. Junk
4. Junk
5. Focus of Spirit
6. Aegolism
7. Divine Strength
8. Maniacal Strength
9. Mortal Deftness
10. Haste
11. MR Buff
12. FR Buff
13. CR Buff
14. Clarity

Avatar would be better obviously, but you'd probably need a primal, since Shamans will be Avataring the Rogues.
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Old 04-05-2024, 03:43 PM
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Back to original topic. Ogre is the best.

Gnome would be the best but I don't know if we will see this on p99. A boy can dream
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Old 04-05-2024, 06:02 PM
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Old 04-05-2024, 11:40 PM
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Thanks for adding to page 54.
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