Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s funny because he lacks the testicular fortitude to not have the last post.

It is sad you come back just to troll and give out bad information because you can't admit Mages aren't as good as you thought.

[Troxx]

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You lost. You’re wrong … and too ignorant to know when to quit.

Sorry man.

[Troxx]

Post again and prove me right. You can’t not have the last say on any topic.

[Troxx]

Do it. Post again when nobody agrees.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Oof, double posting a posting taunt[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Someone's mad.

Here is yet another problem with Zuranthium odd understanding of math.

If you are killing a mob in 30 seconds, using 2x Ice Strikes would be better. You are getting 1350 / 30 = 45 DPS for 500 mana. Your "optimal" example is doing (150 + 214 + 214 + 214 + 400)/ 30 = 40 DPS for 630 mana. Not sure how this is saving anything.

2x Ice Strike takes 14 seconds to cast but costs 130 less mana. Bane + Blast takes 10 seconds.

Cannibalize 4 only gives you 80 mana, so you are still down 50 mana after the extra cannibalize lol.

None of this is taking into account Shaman pet DPS either. The Shaman pet can do around 15 DPS, so you are getting 60 DPS from 2x Ice Strikes and a pet for 500 mana in 30 seconds.

Ice Strike is lower level than Bane too, so less fizzles[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep missing the part where I am telling you that you aren't going to be cannibalizing the entire time, because a group isn't going to be pulling 77 mobs an hour. There will be breaks in between.

A group can certainly pull 77+ mobs an hour if they are good and want to progress the most. And the "breaks" should be for movement, looting, or general afk needs, which means you aren't able to cast during that time anyway. Regarding movement in general, you don't need to kill 77 mobs per hour to achieve maximum efficiency if the area dictates needing to move around to farm (such as running between different areas of PoM). The amount you can kill is still dictated by the DPS though; you want to be doing the most when not moving, otherwise you're killing less. You don't get it.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody cares about your Velious Giants example. In Kael your DoTs will last the full time.

Anyone who wants to hunt Velious giants cares. And no your DoT's are not lasting full time. Like I already said before, a 12k HP target is dying in less than 30 seconds. Just keep being wrong.

[Troxx]

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A group can certainly pull 77+ mobs an hour if they are good and want to progress the most. And the "breaks" should be for movement, looting, or general afk needs, which means you aren't able to cast during that time anyway. Regarding movement in general, you don't need to kill 77 mobs per hour to achieve maximum efficiency if the area dictates needing to move around to farm (such as running between different areas of PoM). The amount you can kill is still dictated by the DPS though; you want to be doing the most when not moving, otherwise you're killing less. You don't get it.



Anyone who wants to hunt Velious giants cares. And no your DoT's are not lasting full time. Like I already said before, a 12k HP target is dying in less than 30 seconds. Just keep being wrong.

Please show me the level 60 camp where they are pulling 77 mobs per hour. High level dungeons have a 30 min respawn time.

https://youtu.be/QjJZgbTUoLk?t=850 Those giants aren't dying in 30 seconds with a 6 man group lol. Sorry you are wrong yet again.

https://youtu.be/evvWDdkh6Xk?t=13968 another video, giants aren't dying in 30 seconds with an Ench pet.

I am pretty sure you are just a low level player that seems to think all zones are like the low level zones you can chain pull.

But I am sure you will say something like "I could play way better!", while you have yet to show anything lol.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Zuranthium is clearly just a troll, or cannot admit he is wrong.

For the record, he believes 500 mana for more damage is worse than 550 mana (after cannibalize) for less damage because of... fizzles at level 60. I rarely get fizzles even on Torpor.

I am done engaging with him in this thread. He won't admit he is wrong, and he won't do math correctly lol.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are killing a mob in 30 seconds, using 2x Ice Strikes would be better. You are getting 1350 / 30 = 45 DPS for 500 mana. Your "optimal" example is doing (150 + 214 + 214 + 214 + 400)/ 30 = 40 DPS for 630 mana. Not sure how this is saving anything.

2x Ice Strike takes 14 seconds to cast but costs 130 less mana. Bane + Blast takes 10 seconds. Cannibalize 4 only gives you 80 mana, so you are still down 50 mana after the extra cannibalize lol.

Cannibalize is 82 mana, and it's 625 mana and 9.5 second cast time for the other spells. You can Cannibalize 1.5 times in the extra amount of time, which covers the mana difference, and the reason you use Bane is because there's no partial resist like there is for DD's. It does the most damage on average as such.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/QjJZgbTUoLk?t=850 Those giants aren't dying in 30 seconds with a 6 man group lol.

That group is clearly doing far less DPS than a dual Enchanter fully-buffed charm pet group. Yet another trash strawman from you. In the other video you link, the one pet being used isn't dual-wielding.

The HP's of the MOB's are 100% verifiable to begin with. They don't have over 12k HP. Enchanter pet group is factually going to be killing them faster than 30 seconds.

If you go to Kael arena and pull higher level things with more HP, that doesn't help the Shaman anyway, because you are just going have higher resist rates. The Mage with their far better pet and unresistible damage shield is keeping their DPS high.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure you are just a low level player

Indeed, that is what you are. The lack of comprehension is staggering.