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Old 01-20-2011, 11:50 PM
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For one, just because you believe there IS a god doesn't mean you believe in creationism. Second, your form of atheism is JUST AS MUCH a religion as Catholicism is. You believe in it fervently and want to force everyone else to believe it too. I agree, people who believe in absolute creationism as it is set forth in biblical tomes are ignorant, but I have no more right than you to force them to change their beliefs.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:28 AM
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For one, just because you believe there IS a god doesn't mean you believe in creationism. Second, your form of atheism is JUST AS MUCH a religion as Catholicism is. You believe in it fervently and want to force everyone else to believe it too. I agree, people who believe in absolute creationism as it is set forth in biblical tomes are ignorant, but I have no more right than you to force them to change their beliefs.
What if one system of beliefs leads to greater well-being for a person, or a society.
Surely a State government ripping out the hearts of human sacrifices for the rain god isn't on par with a secular democracy? Why should all of our beliefs not be rooted in fact and subject to criticism. Or are your ancient partially secularized beliefs above such criticism?
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:51 AM
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creationism and evolution can co-exist. (not biblical creationism, mind you)

belief in "god" isn't a mandate to subscribe to religion.

the bible is pure fantasy, and not nearly as interesting as Greek, Roman or even Norse mythos.

the belief that the divine doesn't exist is pure arrogance. however, science will eventually quantify the nature of divinity.



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Old 01-21-2011, 02:06 AM
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Ok here's something I know. If we were created like the bible tells us our creator is a fucking moron because he gave us an appendix we don't need.
You're a sick sad little man. I award you no points, and my God have mercy on your soul.

It's amazing how much hatred you and some of the others in this thread have. Not only the Athiests but the "Christians" too.

You can tell me to go fuck myself all you want, doesn't make you any more right, in fact, it just proves that "u mad"

It's like when you're trying to have a debate with a child. You explain something, and when they don't have anything to refute it, they call you a "poo poo head"
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:20 AM
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You're a sick sad little man. I award you no points, and my God have mercy on your soul.

It's amazing how much hatred you and some of the others in this thread have. Not only the Athiests but the "Christians" too.

You can tell me to go fuck myself all you want, doesn't make you any more right, in fact, it just proves that "u mad"

It's like when you're trying to have a debate with a child. You explain something, and when they don't have anything to refute it, they call you a "poo poo head"
Except you haven't given me anything I haven't refuted.
Your claim was I'm illiterate, cannot or have not read the bible, and have no grasp of your primitive shitfuck religion. To which I replied that I've read it, study it often, went to church 1000x, I'm from one of the most religious parts of the country, and I'm of a fundamentalist christian family. To which you responded "poopoohead".
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:37 AM
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The bible states that God made the universe to show his power and to give us something to look at in the night sky. Besides, other life on other planets would contradict the bible. You don't see anywhere in the bible saying that he also made other things in the universe on his free time.
I wonder how Theists will change and distort "the word of God" when we do find life on another planet, even a single cell organism. The "church" will come up with some outlandish, previously undiscovered, passage in a book somewhere that explains it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:42 AM
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I wonder how Theists will change and distort "the word of God" when we do find life on another planet, even a single cell organism. The "church" will come up with some outlandish, previously undiscovered, passage in a book somewhere that explains it.
New International Version (©1984)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

New Living Translation (©2007)
In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

English Standard Version (©2001)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, as well as later, when the sons of God slept with the daughters of other humans and had children by them. These children were famous long ago.

King James Bible
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown


Aliens fo sho.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:42 AM
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I wonder how Theists will change and distort "the word of God" when we do find life on another planet, even a single cell organism. The "church" will come up with some outlandish, previously undiscovered, passage in a book somewhere that explains it.
No where in the Bible does it say that God didn't create other 'life' So this would be irrelevant to disproving Christianity. Neat idea though.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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Except you haven't given me anything I haven't refuted.
Your claim was I'm illiterate, cannot or have not read the bible, and have no grasp of your primitive shitfuck religion. To which I replied that I've read it, study it often, went to church 1000x, I'm from one of the most religious parts of the country, and I'm of a fundamentalist christian family. To which you responded "poopoohead".
Actually you're the one who has gone bananas here, I'm perfectly calm. I didn't say you were illiterate, dunno where you're getting that. As far as you having read the Bible, you've obviously not understood something about it, because it's not primitive, and the arguments you bring up don't hold any weight.

I don't care if your family is a fundamentalist Christian family, doesn't mean they've got it all right either, in fact in a lot of ways the fundamentalist Christians are the bigots, and the ones who are always bringing the Fire and Brimstone, and saying how everything is wrong.

Sort of like the whole Christians can't drink thing. The Bible doesn't say that, just says don't drink to get drunk. That refers to gluttony which is a sin, so over drinking, and over eating, both the same thing, gluttony. I know you didn't bring that topic up, just referencing a common misconception amongst fundamentalists.

So you can keep flying off the handle and being mad brew. Hope you get over it, and I'm sorry for however you grew up that made you so angry.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:58 AM
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Actually you're the one who has gone bananas here, I'm perfectly calm. I didn't say you were illiterate, dunno where you're getting that. As far as you having read the Bible, you've obviously not understood something about it, because it's not primitive, and the arguments you bring up don't hold any weight.
Don't be silly, it's symbolic Iron Age Literature concerning sacrifices and deities. It's obviously primitive superstitious nonsense and folklore, I suppose we could call it shitty mythology at best.

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I don't care if your family is a fundamentalist Christian family, doesn't mean they've got it all right either, in fact in a lot of ways the fundamentalist Christians are the bigots, and the ones who are always bringing the Fire and Brimstone, and saying how everything is wrong.
Agreed that they are bigoted and wrong about everything.

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Sort of like the whole Christians can't drink thing. The Bible doesn't say that, just says don't drink to get drunk. That refers to gluttony which is a sin, so over drinking, and over eating, both the same thing, gluttony. I know you didn't bring that topic up, just referencing a common misconception amongst fundamentalists.

So you can keep flying off the handle and being mad brew. Hope you get over it, and I'm sorry for however you grew up that made you so angry.
I'm not sure why you think I would get angry over any of this. I piss off religious people for entertainment, and occasionally make some of them think. I said I've read the bible, and study it. You say there is no way that I could have read your awesome book and drawn the conclusions that I have drawn. I think it's possible you're the one that's butthurt over the fact that not everyone wants to believe such garbage, and projecting that emotion onto me.
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