Are you kidding me?

[Signal]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sooo we're admitting that Rile spam can help you catch up if you're behind but refusing to admit it can push you into the lead once you hit the #1 spot? How does that logic work? Factioned racers can rile spam run for a LONG TIME before having to worry about hitting a DA idol.

Oh no someone put it more work than you and have one of a possible dozen advantages that these rules limit. All the current rules do is award classes with bind sight. Period. Are we going to call that unfair soon ? Idiots.

[Gimp]

Fuck it, just go back to scale in Kael.

Don't think scale is doable in ToV, so I'd say SoW plus whatever the fuck else you wanna use.

[Tewaz]

In the game of who has more free time on their hands. You will always lose. There is always someone without a job, in their mom's basement, and willing to stare at 17 year old elf quest for 20 hours a day.

[Signal]

Jesus this Mistle guy really keeps going when he is on the mat doesn't he. Someone save him from himself.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus this Mistle guy really keeps going when he is on the mat doesn't he. Someone save him from himself.

How dare someone use RnF for logic?

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dare someone use RnF for logic?

Logic? He literally says "EQ has never been a game built for that sort of style" when in fact vanilla EQ was very much designed towards a competitive high end. Every single server had competition that looked like one or two guilds dominating the high end content and the rest picking up what they could. There wasn't a rotation in TOV on the server I played on, until after the top 2 guilds were busy fighting for SSRA and VT in luclin.

Wow was designed to fill the gap between hardcore mmo players and the casuals. Even in vanilla WOW there were world bosses that certain guilds dominated over others. Complaining that this server, which was intended to be a vanilla EQ server, is too tough to raid on due to competition is just a stupid excuse and doesn't actually show any logic. Vanilla EQ was meant to be a competition. WOW is the epitome of what ruined mmos so using it to try and justify some type of rotation or further GM influence in the raid scene is just stupidity.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in fact vanilla EQ was very much designed towards a competitive high end.

That's why PvP servers were so wildly popular and why P99 Red is thriving and many servers in classic had GM enforced rotations

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[Maner]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why PvP servers were so wildly popular and why P99 Red is thriving and many servers in classic had GM enforced rotations

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do you have any evidence of GM enforced rotations on classic servers?

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Logic? He literally says "EQ has never been a game built for that sort of style" when in fact vanilla EQ was very much designed towards a competitive high end.

What is your evidence for this? Can you point to a dev quote or something to indicate this?

I don't have much difficulty finding evidence that it WASN'T... especially the undeniable fact that they deliberately changed it so direct competition wasn't possible any more. They were so *sick* of dealing with the Maners of the world, it was the easiest way out.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WOW is the epitome of what ruined mmos so using it to try and justify some type of rotation or further GM influence in the raid scene is just stupidity.

I know following basic arguments is a lot to ask of you, given your pretty sad history here, but try to follow along. Maybe you can get Phil to explain it to you if he's still trying to get into your pants. No one is using WoW as justification for a rotation. WoW is simply an example of how mmorpgs evolved so that people like you would stop wrecking them. That's all!

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[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dare someone use RnF for logic?

Signal is still upset from humiliations earlier. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Honestly his posts have been so shitty I am surprised he is still bothering to post with that account.