Upcoming change to class epics

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue is magnified by the fact that there is/was no conclusive evidence to support the change to make epics have a level equip requirement.

AND that they waited all these years to implement it.
AND they only did it to introduce some 'balance' to the server.

If balance was an issue, then maybe they should have never implemented MQs.

This is an on-going project.

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So after all this, the least they could do would be amend the casts /effects on weapons to match their equip level.

Not classic. Not even in the spirit of classic. Not going to happen.

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really is frustrating but I guess if that was what they had to do then /shrug Swiftwind and Earthcaller will just stay in my bags on my ranger and ill never bother logging him in again.

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Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason they did it has nothing to do with it being classic. Or having to go planes (see cleric epic walkthrough for the lack of any planar raid required) those were the bs excuses given.

Again, here is the direct quote. "Additionally, we feel that acquiring an epic weapon should only be possible when a player has become powerful enough to cross interplanar portals."

He's not saying that all epics require planar travel. He's saying that they feel you should be POWERFUL ENOUGH to cross interplanar portals before attaining your epic. Your statement in no way invalidates this.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue is magnified by the fact that there is/was no conclusive evidence to support the change to make epics have a level equip requirement.

I just posted a CURRENT post from alakhazam showing no level requirement on the ITEM itself.

The check should have been the NPC, that the devs fault for not fixing this 6 years ago and letting the MQ market run wild.

They should not have added a non-classic or even current level requirement to an item when it never existed and still to this day does not exist, again check the zam.com ragebringer item page. There is no discussion, this is a fact. Period.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Again, here is the direct quote. "Additionally, we feel that acquiring an epic weapon should only be possible when a player has become powerful enough to cross interplanar portals."

He's not saying that all epics require planar travel. He's saying that they feel you should be POWERFUL ENOUGH to cross interplanar portals before attaining your epic. Your statement in no way invalidates this.

"We feel" not "It was classic." And again, this means to COMPLETE the quest GOING FORWARD, not add a level requirement to an item that doesnt have a level requirement and never had a level requirement on live.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are 100% right about one thing, independent of the fact that the rest of your post was just rambling nonsense. This is a nerf to all characters that have purchased MQed epics before they were the appropriate level. This is intended.

It is easy enough to work around, though. Get 46.

Please specify which parts you consider rambling. The link to the item? The item itself? The possible fixes that dont involve retroactive nerfs that never existed in live and still dont to this day? Be specific please.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still 100% right.

Still 100% not your server.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still 100% not your server.

Still never claimed it was my server. You keep using this as if its some magical excuse.

"It's their ball and they can just take it and go home" as if that makes it okay, true as it is.

I can still voice concerns in a reasonable way. I am not talking shit, in fact I have been quite calm, yet passionate about this because I care. I have even pointed out ways to accomplish what they seem to be saying without a retroactive nerf, unless this was required for red - which I couldn't care less about.

I would just like an honest up front reason that isn't bullshit. Again, their statement to justify this explains why going forward, the NPCs wont/shouldn't have accept/ed the items if you are under 46, but zero reasons why every single non 46 lv character MUST NOT BE ABLE TO equip the epic until 46.

Again, you could de-level yourself to 5 and still equip your epic on live - Mudcrush did it on Nameless. ( think he stopped at 10-11 iirc) He had stacks and stacks of corpses and releveled his char with full VP gear because he could.

If you had it, you could equip it - period. That's classic. That's how it should be if you are gonna claim to be a 'classic everquest' server.

[am0n]

I'd still like to see them remove MQ on Epic quests. Make the players do the quest instead of buying it. It'd also help people who want to do the quest instead of buying it, since people won't be camping mobs solely for the intent of trying to sell the item.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still never claimed it was my server. You keep using this as if its some magical excuse.

"It's their ball and they can just take it and go home" as if that makes it okay, true as it is.

I can still voice concerns in a reasonable way. I am not talking shit, in fact I have been quite calm, yet passionate about this because I care. I have even pointed out ways to accomplish what they seem to be saying without a retroactive nerf, unless this was required for red - which I couldn't care less about.

I would just like an honest up front reason that isn't bullshit. Again, their statement to justify this explains why going forward, the NPCs wont/shouldn't have accept/ed the items if you are under 46, but zero reasons why every single non 46 lv character MUST NOT BE ABLE TO equip the epic until 46.

Again, you could de-level yourself to 5 and still equip your epic on live - Mudcrush did it on Nameless. ( think he stopped at 10-11 iirc) He had stacks and stacks of corpses and releveled his char with full VP gear because he could.

If you had it, you could equip it - period. That's classic. That's how it should be if you are gonna claim to be a 'classic everquest' server.

After scrolling through the last few pages of this thread, do you realize that this is not RnF? If you want to rant about how unhappy you are with this change, take it to the proper place.

[Mudslinger]

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