Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Ungriim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vp is FTE (assume TMO/IBFE competition)

3 weeks a month is TMO/IBFE in rotation on rotation assuming no outside guilds compete

1 week a month TMO/IBFE take break from classic/kunark and let other guilds duke it out

sounds good, but why does TMO/IBFE rotate?

And during your 1 week break for the casual scum to partake in raiding, is VP also a no go?

If VP remains a go, I think we have a potential winner here.

[Versus]

Just read Loraen's other thread. It sums up everything in a nice TL;DR couple paragraphs. This is just getting dumb though.

[Yinikren]

I am in favor of TMO not setting demands the rest of the server will not agree to.

You guys figure out how to work 6 guilds into a mix.

[Ungriim]

Sorry typos drunk in Vegas

[Yinikren]

Casuals raiding once a week isn't an option. People shouldn't have to go on vacation for 3 weeks when their raiding is done to fit you guys in.

A weekly schedule that moderates mob intake would be cleaner, less confusing, wouldn't fuck people out of town on business, and be easier to police. You guys just don't like it cause you don't get 75% of the mobs. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Joroz]

re-pops wont fix anything.... look back at the history of them, one guild logs in alts kills a target then logs in another set of alts over and over till most of the re-pop is dead, then they go play in their playground that they have cock blocked away from the rest of the server for 3 years, rarely does any guild mobilize fast enough to beat the army's of alts camped at each mobs engage spot, sure they may get mobs left up that drop shitty bracers or wt reducing bags but nothing good. all your doing with re-pops is increasing the fun level for those that keep getting most of everything, rules of engagement need to be adjusted to curb this behavior. this type of encounter lock down is not and has never been part of classic eq experience.

[Fael]

Even with alts, the last few repops have seen a fair distribution. If repops are during prime time with adequate notice, it's your own fault if you come away empty handed.

[williestargell]

one thing that comes from the GM end would be more repops. Repops by definition give everyone a chance at kills, you can only be in one place at a time. Guilds have backed off on repop days due to not being willing to put up with being trained and otherwise abused. If there's assurance that misdeeds wont happen or will be punished then several more guilds will be involved on those days.

More repops is better and has been semi-promised for a long time

[kotton05]

guilds can kill vs, trak and prolly fay at same time

[Joroz]

here is what really happens during a re-pop:

guild a and b both log in alts/mains at vs and trak, so 2 raids at same time with parked alts/mains at both, either way mob dies in a couple mins sometimes guild a gets both sometimes its split. next these guys evac for sev, which usually have already started the pull while they were doing vs and trak with an alt, sev dies shortly after, at the same time they have a small alt army killing fay, soon as these mobs are dead... aprox 10-15mins after re-pop ct and inny are targeted both those guys die within another 10mins... so if your keeping track trak/vs/sev/inny/ct are all systematically downed in 20-25mins mins of a repop by a guild or two and their alt armies. Now we get to where normal guilds come into play... some of them have actually mobilized to things like tal/gore/noble cycle or managed to put together crews for vox/naggy, these guys will still mobilize and try to get fte of which they will managed to get 2 or 3 of them with other raids getting ready to attempt. so repops are great for the server with the current raiding culture if you want to maybe get talendor or vox which will have the least resistance due to alt armies not there yet. this is how it is when all alt army raiders are not currently serving a suspension. not classic raiding at all... sure loosing to a guild over and over on races to mobs yes but not everything down when you get to it by a guild with alt raid at every encounter.