Victim disarmament zones

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the USSR was the only communist country to run into starvation issues, you might have a point.

It seems as if you beleive I was arguing against you. I was and am supporting your position and highlighting the other horrible pitfalls of a socialist or communist system.

[Elmarnieh]

Firearms in the hands of citizens is something that is here to stay in the US. In the last 20 years the firearm laws have been massively liberalized where now private carry of firearms is legal in all 50 states in some manner. Gun owners as a segment of population are growing if one looks at unique NIC checks (some surveys report it as shrinking but they don't take into account the underreporting that is rampant among gun owners). The largest growing market is female gun owners. The more people who undertake firearms the less traction gained by the anti-gun fearmongering.

If you don't like guns you have a choice - don't own any. If you don't like others having guns I suggest you learn to deal with it because it isn't going to change nor should anyone's rights be infringed due to others being timid or prudish.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care about Marx's intent. I care that a logical fallacy was presented as not only a reason to support an economic system but as a law. If you knew both of these laws to be untrue then don't post them and certainly don't present them as laws.

I didn't post them as laws. I was agreeing with you on the absurdity of those supposed economic laws. Marx has been so thoroughly discredited that it's shocking anyone still believes his ideas.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems as if you beleive I was arguing against you. I was and am supporting your position and highlighting the other horrible pitfalls of a socialist or communist system.

Ah, I thought you were taking the "but the USSR weren't real communists" line. My misunderstanding.

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[Rhambuk]

People saying these "rich white kids need a dose of reality" c'mon seriously?

I grew up in maine, almost everyone owns a gun but there are so few robberies/break ins/crime that it doesn't even matter if you had an arsenal no ones coming for you.

Guess im just a lucky privileged white kid, instead of spending all of your money on guns/ammo to keep your stuff safe, how about you move to a safer neighborhood where its not necessary to be on complete lockdown.

blahblahblah spoiled white kid here with no clue of reality because only those that have lived in the ghetto and been shot at know what the real world is like.

gimme a break

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I grew up in maine, almost everyone owns a gun but there are so few robberies/break ins/crime that it doesn't even matter if you had an arsenal no ones coming for you.

more guns less crime proven again!

[Rhambuk]

So having a gun in your house lowers crime for the community?

you having a gun stops street muggings? store burglaries? other houses being broken into?

US Law all citizens required to own a loaded shotgun in their house to keep the community safe...

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So having a gun in your house lowers crime for the community?

you having a gun stops street muggings? store burglaries? other houses being broken into?

US Law all citizens required to own a loaded shotgun in their house to keep the community safe...

It has both stopped those things in progress and prevented those from happening.

Here is an example of a criminal declining to rob a place because he saw a citizen carrying a firearm in the establishment: http://www.examiner.com/article/open...bbery-kennesaw

[Rhambuk]

if he sees a person with a firearm sure.

how does root having a shotgun under his bed deter crime? unless he has a sign on his door that says owner carries loaded weapon, and a shirt that says armed at all times. no criminal is going to assume he has a shotgun or there would never be crime.

its not the fact that people have guns or what they do with them, its that they are so fanatical in their beliefs that if they don't have a gun theyre doomed to be robbed raped murdered...

If thats the kind of place where you live, get the fuck out then instead of going just as crazy as the criminals in your self defense.

heading out, probly wont check this for a few days =p