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Old 11-22-2011, 04:13 PM
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Get those people who are doing well to do well for everyone. To do otherwise is immoral.
It's just too big. The likelihood of corruption for anybody in such a powerful position is so overwhelming that there hasn't been a trustworthy person elected to congress/president since I can remember.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. To continue to feed it is immoral.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:18 PM
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It's just too big. The likelihood of corruption for anybody in such a powerful position is so overwhelming that there hasn't been a trustworthy person elected to congress/president since I can remember.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. To continue to feed it is immoral.
Then we agree on several things.

It's an often (intentionally?) overlooked fact that the original goals and reasons for action of the people who were first dubbed "tea party" are often in direct agreement with what you hear listening to General Assemblies at occupy.

I honestly was all for tea partying before the right winger talk show pundits got their tentacles so firmly entrenched and changed the spirit of the movement.

I see that happening to occupy as well, but on a lesser scale because it seems that the premise in the first place is to oust the entire monster (right and center and left.. all different aspects of the same beast) as opposed to changing from within, which has been set up from the get up to be a great cup shuffle. No meaningful change in policy can be affected from within the current government system.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:02 PM
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On behalf of the police/riot squads using force a lot of these protesting twerps have no fucking respect for them and it sickens me. Why are the men and woman in the blue uniform used as a scapegoat for the movement?

I'll tell you what. If i was a cop and one of these little bastards grabbed my cap and threw it on the floor I wouldn't hesitate to bludgeon them.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
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I'll tell you what. If i was a cop and one of these little bastards grabbed my cap and threw it on the floor I wouldn't hesitate to bludgeon them.
How exactly is bludgeoning justified by something as symbolic as stomping your hat? Where does it hurt or endanger you? It doesn't. Ever heard of appropriate force?
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
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How exactly is bludgeoning justified by something as symbolic as stomping your hat? Where does it hurt or endanger you? It doesn't. Ever heard of appropriate force?
They're doing their job so you can have a peaceful protest and you fucking rip their hat off and throw it on the ground, and then proceed to STOMP on it?

Are you shitting me?

Should there be no consequence for such actions?
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
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They're doing their job so you can have a peaceful protest and you fucking rip their hat off and throw it on the ground, and then proceed to STOMP on it?

Are you shitting me?

Should there be no consequence for such actions?
Allow me to remind you who enables the police to even have said job. Without a required presence at said rally, said officer would be at him, on his couch, lazing out next to Harrison. That's unpaid. Instead, he's being gifted potentially hundreds of hours of overtime, and some times hazard pay.

You should be happy that you're so lucky as to have your hat stomped.

That is, of course, unless you're one of the many people that are mentally ill and joined the police force strictly for the possibility of forcing your will on others. In which case, you need more than your hat stomped.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
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They're doing their job so you can have a peaceful protest and you fucking rip their hat off and throw it on the ground, and then proceed to STOMP on it?

Are you shitting me?

Should there be no consequence for such actions?
You honestly seem to think the protestors are the ones starting violence..

I feel bad for you.

The truth is out there dude, but you have to look.

The media has a complete blackout of this movement. I know this is true because I see actual disparity between events which I have witnessed first hand and the portrayal of those events by the mainstream media.

In order to find truth, you need to use the internet: this generations greatest tool. On youtube; on the livestreams; on the websites which have transcripts, videos, and audio; most importantly at General Assemblies; you will find truth. You will see that peaceful people have been acted on with violence, disrupting any attempt to remain peaceful and trampling all over the constitution.

You were warned about this.

Read Thomas Jefferson, for fucks sake.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:46 PM
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You honestly seem to think the protestors are the ones starting violence...
I'm not that naive. I know this situation is not as black and white as the media makes it to be. I actually think the intentions of the movement are spot on. That's not what I'm arguing though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
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On behalf of the police/riot squads using force a lot of these protesting twerps have no fucking respect for them and it sickens me. Why are the men and woman in the blue uniform used as a scapegoat for the movement?

I'll tell you what. If i was a cop and one of these little bastards grabbed my cap and threw it on the floor I wouldn't hesitate to bludgeon them.
You're retarded.

The cops are supposed to protect people. RIOT cops are supposed to protect people from RIOTERS. What happened is that PEACEFUL PROTESTORS were subjected to LESS LETHAL WEAPONS.

There's an essential disconnect that people like you have which is called intentional ignorance, and it does absolutely no good to talk to you, so I'll end here with a rhetorical question for you to chew on:

Where were the RIOT cops when these assholes showed up at that mans funeral?

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Old 11-22-2011, 04:39 PM
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I don't see how your response has anything to do with what I said, nor do I see the pertinence of your funeral example.

I'll try to make it clearer in case I didn't the first time around.

Police are not the enemy of the "movement" and should be treated with respect.

How many times can you grab and pull a dogs tail before you get bit?


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You're retarded.

The cops are supposed to protect people. RIOT cops are supposed to protect people from RIOTERS. What happened is that PEACEFUL PROTESTORS were subjected to LESS LETHAL WEAPONS.

There's an essential disconnect that people like you have which is called intentional ignorance, and it does absolutely no good to talk to you, so I'll end here with a rhetorical question for you to chew on:

Where were the RIOT cops when these assholes showed up at that mans funeral?

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