Are you kidding me?

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And no one is even mentioning that FTE races boil down to latency and that latency boils down to your proximity to Rogean's nutsack.

That just isn't true on racing.

[Signal]

Scryll a Euro on a bard won the last Tormax. Pretty sure his latency was terrible.

[Gimp]

They're really not "fair" though. Rile is just one of the many retarded gear arguments you can make.

Monks get 250 range clicky, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

Rangers can shoot an arrow and bow proc from 300+ away, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

I get bind sight, others have to Skype share. Unfair advantage.

You could literally make a laundry list of petty little "unfair" shit when it comes down to it.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're really not "fair" though. Rile is just one of the many retarded gear arguments you can make.

Monks get 250 range clicky, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

Rangers can shoot an arrow and bow proc from 300+ away, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

I get bind sight, others have to Skype share. Unfair advantage.

You could literally make a laundry list of petty little "unfair" shit when it comes down to it.

I think Freakish said it best. Why are we limiting players from being inventive ? Let people take the risk of using whatever they want. Stop limiting how players can play this game. You push people from the server.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Freakish said it best. Why are we limiting players from being inventive ? Let people take the risk of using whatever they want. Stop limiting how players can play this game. You push people from the server.

Nah dude change every rule until someone other than A/A starts winning consisently.

Can't have hardcore guilds playing harder and winning because of it.

Don't use a crown.
Can't jump.
Definitely no screen sharing.
Don't coth.
Don't lull.

Insert another 45-50 random rules that don't really make sense with A/A continuing to win before the server staff realizes they're just making A/A commit more time and energy for no reason.

What casual guilds really want from us is for us to stop trying so hard. I can respect that request waaay before I'm going to pretend their complaints over the ruleset is actually because the rules are unfair.

[Mistle]

[QUOTE=Legday;2264934
What casual guilds really want from us is for us to stop trying so hard.[/QUOTE]

It has been clearly established over a very long period of time now that there is no limit to how hard the neckbeard nerds will go to make sure they get pixels and no one else does. If it came out to "trying very hard gets us more pixels" no one would really mind, but unfortunately it is "trying INSANELY hard gets us ALL the pixels" instead. Historically, when people showed they could not be trusted not to take something to far beyond stupid lengths just to somehow make themselves believe they were superior to everyone else, devs would step in. This is how Time and later expansions got instanced, this is why WoW was made. Because there is no limit beyond these people.

If rules can bring it from "all the pixels" to just "more of the pixels", then rules will work. If not, then the server staff needs to step in and enforce something else. Or they can just do nothing, and we'll see how many FTEers and trackers are left by midsummer. I'm honestly morbidly curious.

The funniest thing is, as a caster main I don't even care. The server timeline ends before anything appears in game that can significantly differentiate me from anyone else. There's no focus effects and no AA. The best geared clerics in AM and Awakened can probably get off one, perhaps two more cheals at the extreme high end if FT is working properly now, someone has enough of it, and the fight goes on long enough, than I can. They don't heal for more, they don't heal faster, they don't heal more efficiently or anything else. Being the best is so fucking pointless as a caster even in the pitiful context of P1999, lol. I could see the allure of it for melees with those weapon ratios always increasing and the gear not quite to the level of maxing every melee stat yet, but for me? It's mindboggling to me that there are still people who care *that much* after what, six years now, of "being better". By now, even the dullest Phil McKracken should have figured it out by now.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're really not "fair" though. Rile is just one of the many retarded gear arguments you can make.

Monks get 250 range clicky, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

Rangers can shoot an arrow and bow proc from 300+ away, I only have 200. Unfair advantage.

I get bind sight, others have to Skype share. Unfair advantage.

You could literally make a laundry list of petty little "unfair" shit when it comes down to it.

Not really comparing apples to apples. Every guild has an abundance of monks. Most guilds have at least a couple rangers. Several classes have bind sight and anyone can download skype easily. Having multiple crown of riles so you have a decent chance of one of your crown racers online at any given time for a race is a SIGNIFICANTLY bigger hurdle to overcome. Like I said BDA has been going hard in VP for like a year and has gotten 3 /shrug

All this anecdotal bullshit evidence of people with crowns losing to people without it is nonsense. There's a ton of reasons someone with a crown could lose whether its lag or slow reaction time off the starting gate or taking a slightly slower route or getting body blocked. Whatever the case may be. The fact is jumping makes you run faster and everyone eventually runs out of stamina and can't jump anymore. Crown of rile eliminates that and gives a pretty good advantage whether we admit it or not.

[Tewaz]

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in video games. GG Blue.

[Phantasm]

Use the items and tools you have available to win

Who cares if another guild loses, thats the way it goes
Inventing new ways to FTE as been what keeps people logging in week after week to race/beat their competition. Stop being adaptive to the environment and there might as well be no point to logging in in the first place

[jcr4990]

Sooo we're admitting that Rile spam can help you catch up if you're behind but refusing to admit it can push you into the lead once you hit the #1 spot? How does that logic work? Factioned racers can rile spam run for a LONG TIME before having to worry about hitting a DA idol.