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Old 12-21-2013, 01:21 AM
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They were just warm bodies drinking the juice tasslehof. Doing what they was told, being lied to, while I can't hold them in direct blame I do hold some underlying disgust towards a certain few for various reasons.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:04 AM
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Hahhhhhhhahh. Omg, I'm a TMO member, and I have to agree, you win today's forum quest by a long margin. I was laughing my ass off the entire time. Well played sir.

That being said, all of those expecting a formal TMO apology, get real. This was a tiny subset of our guild that cheated. TMO collectively had nothing to do with this. These assholes cheated, got caught, deservingly got perma-banned, and are dragging our guild name through the mud right now. The guild overall had nothing to do with this cheating. If others were part of it, they too would be logged, caught, and banned. Though formerly trusted members are gone, we are glad the cheaters got caught.

I'm wondering, why are y'all expecting a formal apology? The officers did not know what was going on. If they were part of the scheme, they would have been banned too. The GMs have clear logs of the events that transpired, which is why these two individuals got caught, banned, and immediately fessed up within our own forums. I wish they would post a formal apology on these forums for you all to circle jerk around, but that is probably not going to happen. The members had no part in this and no clue what was going on. If they did, they too would have been banned (and yes, I think perma-bans for these people was the perfect choice of action from the GMs).

When FE/IB clearly trained at trak last week and received a 5 day suspension, I never saw a single formal apology from the FE/IB leadership. They cried and said "oooohh no, TMO did it first, it was justified". It was a single member of the guild that stepped out of line, and the entire guild got punished.

Our entire guild is getting punished right now with a two week suspension, and numerous accounts being banned due to misplaced trust. This is all from the actions of two members, not the collective guild. Do we deserve a suspension? In my opinion, probably. But I know the majority of you agree that the answer is: Hell yea!

You are probably right. The few that step out of line can hurt the entire guild, just like we see in training/raid interference incidents. But, please, give me a break. I'm not going to step up and apologize for Froovy being a cheater. That is his own prerogative, if he wants to go there.

The guild is not in the wrong, but we have been punished for the actions of our members accordingly. Give it a rest on the request for an apology.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:23 AM
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By being a part of such an inconsiderate and abusive guild who's actions have caused a major disturbance on the server many times, you are just as guilty as those actually committing the crimes. No TMO member can say they are unaware of their guild's foul actions as many people have provided proof of such unsavory behaviour in a number of different scenarios. This 2 week suspension is a very mild punishment for the amount of cheating/griefing TMO is responsible for.
If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who at points despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:23 AM
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If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
This doesn't read like an apology either.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:24 AM
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If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who at points despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
You are on some crazy kool aid rofl
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:27 AM
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If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
The things you speak of are all the result of the raid scene being shit on by TMO my friend. Not that its any excuse but ANY other guild besides TMO has had no issue putting their difference ls aside to work together forthe better of the server. For example a month or so ago FEIBBDA all worked together on a sev kill and split loots fairly. You can't tell me TMO gas regularly let any other guild participate in their kills with any regularity or compensation, and staffs of undead legions off the occasional draco because you trained whatever guild was in fear first to get it doesn't count.

Be real, be honest.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:47 AM
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I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
I love when Tmo makes shit up out of thin air. They have been doing it a lot lately with rules like the one where Lammy made up about stalling mobs with DA.

One person that had been on Eqmac from day 1 of the server the ex leader of the #1 guild was the main reason Eqmac got shut down. He found out hacks that enabled a lvl 1 toon to enter plane of time. It had nothing to do with anyone from P99.

We need Tmo disbanded Rogean these idiots are toxic to the server.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:20 AM
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So aside from the fact that 2 people did something and owe apologies to the rest of the guild as TMO was probably impacted more than anyone else by this, no apologies should be coming from people who did nothing.
That doesn't read like an apology, you should start from the beginning and try again.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:28 AM
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Honestly, <Conquest> were douchebags at times but mostly left others alone, still they got the death penalty for exploiting a few dragons on live. TMO has gone far beyond that, over and over and over and over and over again. This no-name player advocates guilddeath and officer permaban, it's :classic:.
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:30 AM
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These grudges you guys are holding onto... Will get you nowhere on the future of this server. Reread Rogean's post. Change or have no toys to play with.
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