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Old 01-31-2015, 09:36 AM
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At least we know who to blame when everything goes back to FFA and the same two guilds kill everything.
I would blame the guilds content to remain fat, dumb, and happy inviting whoever to come kill shit with them when they can't, taking up to six hours to do so, instead of prepping for Velious. Quit trying to turn it back around on the guilds who are trying to hold these smaller guilds accountable for doing that bullshit. That's even more welfare than Class C flames the rotation for being in general.

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They sign up for mobs they cant kill, but loophole around it by waiting 6 hours and letting other guilds help them to kill the mob when it doesn't lock the other guilds out so that the other guilds that help them are allowed to also kill the same mob during their rotation spot. It is clear, blatant abuse of the system.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:15 AM
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They sign up for mobs they cant kill, but loophole around it by waiting 6 hours and letting other guilds help them to kill the mob when it doesn't lock the other guilds out so that the other guilds that help them are allowed to also kill the same mob during their rotation spot. It is clear, blatant abuse of the system.
Lol that has literally never happened and it makes no sense. Mobs go FFA within class R at 3 hours.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:24 AM
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Lol that has literally never happened and it makes no sense. Mobs go FFA within class R at 3 hours.
His hours was wrong, but it has happened.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:38 AM
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His hours was wrong, but it has happened.
No your right, three guilds used to exploit a rule allowing them to temporarily be skipped while locked out for a mob and kill the mob once they were no longer locked out.

Taken, Divnity, BDA got 6 out of 7 Traks before removing the rule once the list reached the first outside guild.

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Rule is implemented that allow guilds to be skipped while locked out without being moved to the bottom of the list.

Taken is #1 for Trak
Divinity is #2 for Trak
BDA is #3 for Trak

Taken couldn't kill Trak because they were locked out.
Divinity kills Trak.
Rotation order remained unchanged.
Taken kills Trak.
Divinity is now #1 for Trak.
Divinity can't kill Trak because they are locked out.
BDA kills Trak.
Rotation order remains unchanged.
Divinity kills Trak.
BDA is now #1 for Trak.
BDA can't kill Trak because they are locked out.
Guild4 kills Trak
Rotation remains unchanged.
BDA kills Trak.

Rule is changed because Taken/Div/BDA are unhappy that the rotation moves too slowly.

Guild4 cannot kill Trak because they are locked out.
Guild4 is moved to the bottom of the rotation.
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:54 AM
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I disliked Class R because of BDA. I am now Class R's strongest supporter because of BDA. If anything, what I truly learned over this past year is that smaller guilds should not have to be forced to play the game how someone else does. Thank you Chest Rockwell for teaching us all this valuable lesson, while not learning it yourself. It's pretty hilarious.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:53 AM
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I disliked Class R because of BDA. I am now Class R's strongest supporter because of BDA. If anything, what I truly learned over this past year is that smaller guilds should not have to be forced to play the game how someone else does. Thank you Chest Rockwell for teaching us all this valuable lesson, while not learning it yourself. It's pretty hilarious.
What i find funniest is that many class C posters have been 'end the rotation, its bullshit' for months.

And now that it is in danger of ending, they want to keep it as BDA is doing the ending.

Where are the old bounties for any guild that ended the rotation?
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:03 AM
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No the rotation was bullshit, because you have Class C capable guilds such as Taken and BDA in Class R hiding among fledgling guilds who genuinely need the restricted class protection. The rotation did plenty of good. It's a shame it's getting thrown away because it no longer suits the larger guilds.
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:07 AM
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No the rotation was bullshit, because you have Class C capable guilds such as Taken and BDA in Class R hiding among fledgling guilds who genuinely need the restricted class protection. The rotation did plenty of good. It's a shame it's getting thrown away because it no longer suits the larger guilds.
I like the irony of it, they're encouraging the smaller guilds to be "ready for Velious" by pushing to alter the rotation so they can cap more pixels in the B Tier.

If the rotation folds, what's to stop "Class C" hitting the old "R" targets?
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:11 AM
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I like the irony of it, they're encouraging the smaller guilds to be "ready for Velious" by pushing to alter the rotation so they can cap more pixels in the B Tier.

If the rotation folds, what's to stop "Class C" hitting the old "R" targets?
They would still be designated class R.
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:11 AM
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No the rotation was bullshit, because you have Class C capable guilds such as Taken and BDA in Class R hiding among fledgling guilds who genuinely need the restricted class protection. The rotation did plenty of good. It's a shame it's getting thrown away because it no longer suits the larger guilds.
You seem to be advocating a rotation within R, albeit one without larger guilds. Yet, BDA/Taken/Divinity could have said fuck your rotation and taken majority of spawns for themselves. The rotation enabled some guilds to stay together and experience content they never would have seen otherwise

The whole class system is stupid, and its disintegration will be a rude awakening for some of these smaller guilds, who will find that their leisurely mobilization makes for zero raid kills, and whose better players will up and leave for other guilds.

That being said, the only reason to go to C as the system is currently set up is for VP. And our lack of VP keyed, active characters makes that an unattractive option (albeit one I personally disagree with).
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