Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As you can see, this spam and nonsense will simply continue.

Everyone agrees with me and you agree with you

I'm fine with that

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As you can see, this spam and nonsense will simply continue.

Why? Instead of "spamming nonsense" you could simply provide evidence to support your claims. It really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cannot back up claims

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

conceding...refusing to answer

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

Thank you for conceding you cannot back up the below claims.
You can keep attempting to dodge the below, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve a group's DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.

I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all. You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you."

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Continuing to spam the thread doesn't make me look bad/wrong, or you look good/correct.

If the above Quote was directed toward me, I am neither spamming nor interested in how I look. I am merely continuing the discussion, by re-stating some simple irrefutable facts that DSM has not addressed.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cannot back up claims

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

conceding...refusing to answer

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

Thank you for conceding you cannot back up the below claims.
You can keep attempting to dodge the below, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve group's a DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.

I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all. You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you.

[bcbrown]

Is today the day we hit 500?

[bcbrown]

Clerics provide substantially better blast healing. Sometimes shit hits the fan and rapid healing is more important than mana-efficient healing. Here's the health per second figures of shaman and cleric heals:
Greater Healing - 80 HPS for cleric, 72 HPS for shaman
Superior Healing - 129 HPS for cleric, 116 HPS for shaman
Remedy, level 51 - 146 HPS
Divine Light, level 53 - 200 HPS
Chloroblast, level 55 - 128 HPS
Torpor - 300hp/tick is 50 HPS

Cleric health per second is 129 at level 50 compared to 72 for shaman. 200 to 128 at 55 onwards.

Last night I was cleric for a CoM arena group - two enchanters, a rogue, and a ranger who was pulling and tanking. We had absolutely insane DPS, and were clearing arena, the goo houses, and most of the moat. At one point one of the enchanters started getting slapped around, perhaps on a charm break. I had to chain-cast superior healing, superior healing, greater healing, with the first spell landing at about 15%, the second at about 20-25%, and the third bringing them back up to almost full.

I'm level 49, so if I was on my shaman my best heal would be greater healing. Two GH would have been 540hp, while the two SH healed over 1150. That enchanter would have died if I was on my shaman.

[bcbrown]

Vexenu and I have both made substantial arguments, perhaps you can engage with him or I. Repeating my earlier post:

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics provide substantially better blast healing. Sometimes shit hits the fan and rapid healing is more important than mana-efficient healing. Here's the health per second figures of shaman and cleric heals:
Greater Healing - 80 HPS for cleric, 72 HPS for shaman
Superior Healing - 129 HPS for cleric, 116 HPS for shaman
Remedy, level 51 - 146 HPS
Divine Light, level 53 - 200 HPS
Chloroblast, level 55 - 128 HPS
Torpor - 300hp/tick is 50 HPS

Cleric health per second is 129 at level 50 compared to 72 for shaman. 200 to 128 at 55 onwards.

Last night I was cleric for a CoM arena group - two enchanters, a rogue, and a ranger who was pulling and tanking. We had absolutely insane DPS, and were clearing arena, the goo houses, and most of the moat. At one point one of the enchanters started getting slapped around, perhaps on a charm break. I had to chain-cast superior healing, superior healing, greater healing, with the first spell landing at about 15%, the second at about 20-25%, and the third bringing them back up to almost full.

I'm level 49, so if I was on my shaman my best heal would be greater healing. Two GH would have been 540hp, while the two SH healed over 1150. That enchanter would have died if I was on my shaman.

[bcbrown]

He even said he acknowledges it's probably a sub-optimal group composition, and the OP isn't even the one who picked shaman! He picked necro, so no, you did not convince him.

[bcbrown]

Well put, Vexenu.

[Penish]

not sure why people continue to engage this bot

lol

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The spam and nonsense continues. And they think it makes them look good.