Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that you consider fungi King the pinnacle tells me you need to go out and actually experience difficult content.

Then we can chat.

I never said that lol. Please show me where I said that. Fungi King is simply an easy to understand example, as most people have probably done it.

You are creating a strawman argument because you can't win with facts and logic.

I am still waiting on your example camp that we can run the numbers on.

You can literally pick any camp you want that a four man group can do.

[fortior]

Ench/clr kills puppets in PoM, druid ports around and uses (pet) track to check for Phinny, Tranix, MQables like VP key mobs, other ench kills in SG, group gates and meets up to kill scout, epic mobs.

Swap the druid for a wizard and you unlock plane of hate minis, which this group can easily do.

[Jimjam]

Ngl druid is better for everything except hate (and sky?). Maybe just bind on safe spot in hate to eliminate need for wizard assistance. Perfectly safe…. It is selfbindable?

[fortior]

You'd want a wizard because of server rules. Need to port up. Besides, wizards are cool, you just need a bit more gear/clickies on them.

[Toxigen]

Wiz is probably the best option honestly because it opens up Hate sniping.

[fortior]

I believe a non-bard can kite in fear effectively for at least a little while, so in Classic a 4-man with a porter can snipe 8-hour spawn golems to bag tears as well (using Irak as a charm). You can farm tears and sell them to shamans for 100k a pop later!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe a non-bard can kite in fear effectively for at least a little while, so in Classic a 4-man with a porter can snipe 8-hour spawn golems to bag tears as well (using Irak as a charm). You can farm tears and sell them to shamans for 100k a pop later!

Unless the raiding dynamic/rules have changed recently, a group porting over to Fear is probably not going to snipe a Fear Golem from a guild. Typically you are preparked for that.

It's been years since you could easily farm crew the golems, since you can no longer just camp in fear and pop in when they spawn. People used Shamans for those farm crews by the way!

[fortior]

Nah, I'm talking about Classic, as in, pre-Fear revamp. I wouldn't use that as a serious example of something to do now with a 4-man, but Hate is definitely up there as a seriously good opportunity. You'd need a wizard, but wizards with the right clickies can still be a boon to an ench/ench/cleric team. You'd need the cleric because otherwise your recovery sucks huge balls, and 2 enchanters makes it a lot easier/safer.

The wizard could be for porting up to hate only, and zip around looking for targets or empty camps afterwards. TL to bind would let enchanters bound at convenient camp locations quickly move back between hate snipes.

[bcbrown]

DSM, if you had to pick a favorite 4-person all-caster group with no shaman, what would it be? Doesn't have to be "optimal", just, can you think of any fun and good group that didn't have a shaman?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM, if you had to pick a favorite 4-person all-caster group with no shaman, what would it be? Doesn't have to be "optimal", just, can you think of any fun and good group that didn't have a shaman?

Oh sure. Enchanter/Enchanter/Necromancer/Cleric would be awesome. As I stated before, I am not claiming a Cleric is not a good pick in this group. We are simply debating the finer points of what a Cleric vs. Shaman bring.