Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shamans can Torpor tank, so the pet doesn't have to tank. This means you don't need to CH the tanking pet. What else do you have?

lol

Yea but it's better to just CH the pet and not bother with a shaman

What else do you have?

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shamans can Torpor tank, so the pet doesn't have to tank. This means you don't need to CH the tanking pet. What else do you have?

Shaman's can't Torpor when they don't have Torpor, like during Levels 1-59- which is the majority of the game, by far - and for players who are not intending to continue to play after 60 and gear toons with level 60 spells & gear, they may never even get Torpor.

The OP did not specify that the hypothetical best all 4 person cast/priest group would continue playing after level 60, and you do not get to add specific stipulations to support your preferred class such as requiring we only consider Level 60 (where a Shaman can have Torpor).

Soooooo, I ask:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What else do you have?

Friendly reminder:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to explain why the hp buffs, heals, and stuns are offsetting what a Shaman is doing.

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve group's a DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.


I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all.
You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you.

[Duik]

Fucken idiot.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I am glad we agree Enchanter/Shaman/Monk is a strong combo. If you knew how this combo worked, you would know removing the Monk does not diminish the power of the Enchanter/Shaman for this four person group.

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

You can keep attempting to dodge the below, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this. Hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve group's a DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.

I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all. You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am glad we agree Enchanter/Shaman/Monk is a strong combo. If you knew how this combo worked, you would know removing the Monk does not diminish the power of the Enchanter/Shaman for this four person group.

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

ENC / CLR is better than ENC / SHM

Change my mind

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ENC / CLR is better than ENC / SHM

Change my mind

Here are the strengths of Shaman/Enchanter:

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

Do the same for Enchanter/Cleric please.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here are the strengths of Shaman/Enchanter:

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

Do the same for Enchanter/Cleric please.

I remain unconvinced

ENC / CLR still better

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remain unconvinced

ENC / CLR still better

Thank you for conceding, you cannot back up your claims. You can of course have whatever opinion you want, but it doesn't mean you are correct.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am glad we agree Enchanter/Shaman/Monk is a strong combo. If you knew how this combo worked, you would know removing the Monk does not diminish the power of the Enchanter/Shaman for this four person group.

Shaman/Monk is a great duo, and throwing in an Enchanter is just icing on the cake. A strong duo + the strongest solo class will obviously be a capable trio.

But two can play at this game.

Enchanter/Cleric is even stronger duo than Shaman/Monk. And we can then throw in another Enchanter as icing, the same way you did with your duo. But since everyone knows that Enchanter/Cleric is a stronger duo than Shaman/Monk, our resulting trio of Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric is stronger than Shaman/Monk/Enchanter.

And given that Monk is a Shaman's best duo partner, SHM/ENC/XXX/XXX (removing the Monk since this is an all priest/caster discussion) will necessarily be weaker than ENC/ENC/CLR/XXX.

Admit it, DSM. You've lost. You must now concede, apologize to the forum, rend your garments and spend three days cloaked in sackcloth and ashes, wailing in repentance for your misdeeds.