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09-12-2011, 04:28 PM
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It is more of an issue do you want the top players to have to risk things like their cobalt bp or cloak of flames in fights.
I can see the argument on either side. What I can't see is the future and what needs to be held is a poll of in favor or not. Of course, during a beta if you come up and do the on the spot interview with the person who lost an item "what do you think of item loot!?".. you know what their answer will be. If you go with classic xp, not having item loot is fine. Having item loot certainly makes how you treat others a more serious matter and furthers the pk/anti-pk mentality. Anti-pks certainly go to war, and by PK I mean attack anyone at random versus enjoying the luxury of beating down someone who is generally a pos. I'd strongly disagree with 8 level item loot. I'd agree with 4 levels and item loot. The way I see things going and to keep ragequitting down and interesting at the same time, go with 8 levels and coin. My vote is still for item :P. 4 levels and item is the way the brilliant creators went with RZ and it is no mystery why the all range or 8 level servers didn't have item loot. | ||
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09-12-2011, 08:10 PM
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supposedly there will be no YT... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
no YT, no OOC.. sad panda. YT was really a good thing. it told the entire server if someone was being a dick (random PKing newbs, or bind camping) and also if something exciting was going on, like big pvp over plane of air, etc. .................. sad days with no YT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i dont know of any ppl YT ever made quit. YT + OOC might do that, but YT by itself is all goodness | ||
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09-12-2011, 08:21 PM
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It is definitely a fact that if item loot is ON than the pvp level limit will need to be tightened up to somewhere near 4 levels.
It is definitely a fact that gank quads will be on PVP server regardless of item loot on/off. In one case they will be max twinked in another case they might give some pieces of gear second thoughts.
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09-12-2011, 10:56 PM
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Yea it's true, iv never played on a pvp server and I have downs.
But in reality, i played on TZ, vztz 2.0 and 3.0 I can tell you from personal experience, item loot will inevitably lower the population of a emu pvp server. It is fact Players do not need item loot as motivation to pvp. Reputation, guilds jockeying for raid zones, fighting over exp and named camps, or revenge IS enough motivation. No need to add a dynamic that can negatively effect the very balance and distribution of the classes that make up the server. (people make casters as opposed to what people really wanted to play) | ||
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09-12-2011, 11:48 PM
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Thanks a lot
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09-13-2011, 12:38 AM
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Billbike there are more levels to everquest than 50 and 60. At level 15 in unrest on your first character you have nothing and if someone beat you to making a twink he can own that zone 24/7 and there is nothing you can do to him and nothing to drive you to overcome him.
Its stupid. It makes PVP a mostly a nuissance for lvl 1-40. People will still choose a caster if they want to win 1 vs 1 fights what the heck are you talking about? A melee decked out in non planar gear will have basically zero resists, give me a break. That argument just doesn't make sense. If people want to WIN at pvp they wont be a warrior. If they want to group and kick butt and have a good time, they will be. Item loot or not a mage will dominate a warrior.
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So if I (downs pvp virgin) want to play basketball (pvp) in the NBA (r99) and win, I need to be of African decent (caster in this example) because of my genetics (class play mechanics in an environment that makes it easier for certain classes to exploit the rules of the server)? | |||
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