New Druid Advice from the experts

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like you are using ROST then. I am glad we have some common ground at least.



Perhaps it is you who doesn't have a good enough underatanding of the combat round. If your join date is correct, that means I've been farming high level content as a level 60 for more years than you have been playing on P99. I have also made a DPS cacluator, as you say.

Again, I don't believe in the argument from authority fallacy. You were right about the offhand timer being 100% independent, and I was wrong. I updated my calculator to reflect that. Thank you! I am still learning new things, which is one thing that makes P99 fun.

Personally I don't have an issue with predicting one combat round ahead of time. You get a feel for combat and even specific mobs over time when you have killed enough of them. We also do 10 second CH chains quite consistently. Can you ever be 100% sure CH will land? No, but we get it right often enough to clear all raid content every week.

I prefere inlaid jade hoop since it is 11k cheaper and a signet of service. ROST is on the farm list but it is at the bottom.

If someone says they prefere the ROST over GGR because they find it convenient and they like the stats even if it is a bit less efficient I'm 100% cool with that. If you want to claim there's zero difference between insta cast and 2 seconds cast on charm breaks we'll have to agree to disagree.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The disagreement in this thread isn't really about ring of stealthy travel vs goblin ring. Here's a quick summary:

* OP asks for some advice on rolling a druid "doing as much charm killing as I can", including a question about gear at the end.
* Loramin proposes spending the entire budget on a goblin ring. Several people advocate instead for buying HP/AC/Mana gear, including myself, Toxigen, and DSM.
* There's broad consensus that the goblin ring is very good.
* Toxigen and I say that it isn't necessary, as we've both charmed our way to 60 without one. No one else really agrees with us. Toxigen's position is that it's no more than a minor QoL improvement. My position is that if you can afford one you should get one, but if you can't afford one you'll do just fine charming all the way to 60 on a druid.
* DSM says the best part of the goblin ring is the mana savings from not having to cast IvA, plus saving a spell gem.
* Everyone else points out that spell slots aren't a huge constraint for druids (but is still a nice perk), and DSM drops it.
* Everyone else says that the best part of the goblin ring is the instant cast. DSM disagrees vociferously and then the next 40 pages happen as a result.

The ring of stealthy travel isn't relevant because you can't use it till level 49 and this thread is in the context of leveling a charming druid. My opinion is that by the time someone is close to 50 they'll have had enough experience to make their own choice.

It's strange that you think level 50-60 isn't relevant to a leveling thread. I think level 50-60 is leveling, so ROST is 100% relevant to the conversation. Leveling from 50-60 also takes a lot of time. It's isn't as easy as leveling from 1-40.

Your summary isn't very good. For one, it leaves out the important detail as to why I am disagreeing, and why this thread is 40 pages.

Do posts like this ring a bell?

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no way to win in a conversation with DSM. He will drag you down to his level of disengenuity, and then beat you with experience.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing that video proves is that DSM's enchanter is still level 30.

This thread wouldn't be 40 pages if posters like yourself and Loramin would stick to the topic and avoid these kinds of silly posts. They don't help your positions, and they don't help OP. They don't make me look bad, or you look good.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I prefere inlaid jade hoop since it is 11k cheaper and a signet of service. ROST is on the farm list but it is at the bottom.

If someone says they prefere the ROST over GGR because they find it convenient and they like the stats even if it is a bit less efficient I'm 100% cool with that. If you want to claim there's zero difference between insta cast and 2 seconds cast on charm breaks we'll have to agree to disagree.

Inlaid Jade Hoop has a 1.5 second cast time. It sounds like you are doing fine without instant cast invis. If you have some evidence showing Goblin Ring as more efficient, I would love to see it, and I'd be happy to admit I am wrong.

Right now nobody seems to have this evidence. Based on my experience and the current lack of evidence, I am quite skeptical of the claim Goblin Ring is more efficient than ROST.

[Duik]

The ring of stealthy travel isn't relevant because you can't use it till level 49 and this thread is in the context of leveling a charming druid. My opinion is that by the time someone is close to 50 they'll have had enough experience to make their own choice.

OMFG.
End the thread pls, for the love of dog.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OMFG.
End the thread pls, for the love of dog.

As I said to BcBrown:

It's strange that you think level 50-60 isn't relevant to a leveling thread. I think level 50-60 is leveling, so ROST is 100% relevant to the conversation. Leveling from 50-60 also takes a lot of time. It's isn't as easy as leveling from 1-40.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's strange that you think level 50-60 isn't relevant to a leveling thread.

What does "The Starting Zone" mean to you, Mr. Disengenuous?

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Inlaid Jade Hoop has a 1.5 second cast time. It sounds like you are doing fine without instant cast invis.

It's high elf illusion. I don't think it breaks charm.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does "The Starting Zone" mean to you?

What it says:

For new players to introduce themselves, getting started assistance, and group finding.

If you are suggesting that it is against the rules to talk about level 50-60 here, I don't think anyone here agrees with that based on the discussions, including yourself.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...2&postcount=40

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AC/HP gear - will do nothing to make you level faster

On page 4 you claimed AC/HP does nothing to help with leveling, which is blatantly false at low levels.

Having +200 HP at level 1 is huge, considering you start with like 20 HP. Having 10x the HP pool means you can fight higher level monsters at low levels.

When you are level 50+, you are correct that +200 HP isn't as effective. Mobs can double attack for over 200 damage. But this isn't what you would tell a level 1. You were either giving high level advice, or you don't understand how HP works. I assume it was the former, not the latter.

Mr. Disengenuous?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=395

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=386

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=376

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=369

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=354

Your last 5 posts in the row have been lies about me. You didn't even bother trying to mix these with information relevant to the topic.

You want to shut down the conversation with lies, instead of prove me wrong with facts and logic. There are more examples of your poor behavior in this thread, those are just the latest.

You are the problem here, not me.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are suggesting that it is against the rules to talk about level 50-60 here

No, I was suggesting that any human being with an ounce of self-awareness might have realized that it was was out of context to post (heavily) about 49+ item ... in a thread titled "New Druid Advice from the experts" ... in the Starting Zone.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's high elf illusion. I don't think it breaks charm.

You are correct, illusion spells do not break charm.

Two posts ago you said:

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zelld52 is farming chardok. He doesn't need exp or to even break pet. I already said the ROST would be better in such a situation. I'm also farming chardok and my GGR is bagged.

And then you said this when I said it sounds like you are using ROST:

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I prefere inlaid jade hoop since it is 11k cheaper and a signet of service. ROST is on the farm list but it is at the bottom.

I was a bit confused since you said you have Goblin Ring bagged, but you indicated you don't have ROST either.

I assumed you were making a joke of some kind, as bringing up inlaid jade hoop and signet of service didn't make much sense in the context of breaking charm via Goblin Ring and ROST.

I decided to play along with the joke, but It sounds like I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I was suggesting that any human being with an ounce of self-awareness might have realized that it was was out of context to post (heavily) about 49+ item ... in a thread titled "New Druid Advice from the experts" ... in the Starting Zone.

Considering multiple posters (including yourself) have discussed levels 50-60 multiple times in this thread, I disagree with your assessment.

You ignored this:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=395

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=386

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=376

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=369

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=354

Your last 5 posts in the row have been lies about me. You didn't even bother trying to mix these with information relevant to the topic.

You want to shut down the conversation with lies, instead of prove me wrong with facts and logic. There are more examples of your poor behavior in this thread, those are just the latest.

You are the problem here, not me.

You often try to avoid responsibility for your own actions, and blame others for your bad behavior.