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Old 08-13-2023, 12:13 PM
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The only common tactic is you lying about me moving goalposts[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Please provide where I did it.
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Old 08-13-2023, 01:58 PM
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Point is using your 2h on Mr Turtle you proved a 4.3% dps difference on a 200ac level 5 mob. The dps variance is likely higher on a level appropriate mob. We are using YOUR numbers at this point.
You have yet to prove the DPS difference will be higher, so please stop assuming it will be. A lower level player's DPS will be lower, which means the DPS difference will also be lower. 4% of 30 DPS is 1.2 DPS, not the 3 DPS difference between 67 and 70.

You can provide evidence, or at least the forumulas you are using. Then we can see if your assumptions have any merit.
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Old 08-13-2023, 03:14 PM
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You have yet to prove the DPS difference will be higher, so please stop assuming it will be.
Point it it doesn't matter if i'm right or not (I'm right but that's not relevant). If we just assume your numbers are universally right... that's 4.3%.

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Old 08-13-2023, 03:41 PM
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Everyone: STR on an Iksar SK who is not likely to get endgame gear is more useful than INT

DSM: My massively twinked Monk wearing near-BiS droppable gear gets one level per hour, therefore STR is irrelevant

lol wut

The goalposts are traveling into other dimensions at this point.
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Old 08-13-2023, 04:07 PM
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Everyone: STR on an Iksar SK who is not likely to get endgame gear is more useful than INT

DSM: My massively twinked Monk wearing near-BiS droppable gear gets one level per hour, therefore STR is irrelevant

lol wut

The goalposts are traveling into other dimensions at this point.
Please show me where OP said twinking wasn't an option. You are making up goalposts and then assuming I am moving them lol. That isn't how this works. You are trying so hard to discredit people, because you can't do anything else.

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Point it it doesn't matter if i'm right or not (I'm right but that's not relevant). If we just assume your numbers are universally right... that's 4.3%.
Your arrogance is showing lol. You shouldn't just assume you are right for no reason.
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Old 08-13-2023, 04:50 PM
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Please show me where OP said twinking wasn't an option. You are making up goalposts and then assuming I am moving them lol. That isn't how this works. You are trying so hard to discredit people, because you can't do anything else.
You're literally talking about AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLASS at this point. That's how hard you're shifting the goalposts. And not just any class, the ONLY class in the game who gets little/no benefit from STR for loot purposes due to the weight limit.

We aren't talking about your twink Monk. We're talking specifically about an Iksar SK who will almost certainly never achieve endgame gear. Stay on topic. The fact is, even twinked, the Iksar SK benefits more from STR than INT. This is simply because STR is ALWAYS active and useful, both in and out of combat, while added INT is useful only in extremely rare edge case scenarios, where a tiny bit of extra mana makes the difference between life and death. This almost never happens, especially for experienced players who know how to avoid these type of situations.
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Old 08-13-2023, 05:46 PM
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You're literally talking about AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLASS at this point. That's how hard you're shifting the goalposts. And not just any class, the ONLY class in the game who gets little/no benefit from STR for loot purposes due to the weight limit.

We aren't talking about your twink Monk. We're talking specifically about an Iksar SK who will almost certainly never achieve endgame gear. Stay on topic. The fact is, even twinked, the Iksar SK benefits more from STR than INT. This is simply because STR is ALWAYS active and useful, both in and out of combat, while added INT is useful only in extremely rare edge case scenarios, where a tiny bit of extra mana makes the difference between life and death. This almost never happens, especially for experienced players who know how to avoid these type of situations.
Monks can carry weight over the Monk weight limit lol. I was at 100+ stone from coin and loot often on my monk. It is silly to try and argue players can't do this. I didn't have issues with being over the limit.

I have both practical experience and hard evidence to back up my claims, which are within the bounds of OP's question.

Please stop making up goal posts and then telling people they are moving them. It is sad.
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:08 PM
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"I didn't have issues leveling my overweight Monk twinked with Fungi, IFS, 34% haste and other near-BiS droppables, therefore pump INT at creation on your Iksar SK." - DSM
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:26 PM
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Can't ...... Be....... Wrong.
Unpossible.
INT.....
Edge Case Use.
Monk.... Overwieght..... IFS: Fungi: Haysssste: INT B4 STR on ALL CHARS.
New Meta.
Can't not be unwrong.
Goalposts. |-| Gooooooooaaaaaaaaalllllll!
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:30 PM
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"I didn't have issues leveling my overweight Monk twinked with Fungi, IFS, 34% haste and other near-BiS droppables, therefore pump INT at creation on your Iksar SK." - DSM

I've leveled both a Monk and an SK. We are talking about how STR affects DPS, and both classes use STR in the same formula. You are delusional if you think there is no overlap.

I have provided evidence and practial experience. You have provided imaginary goal posts out out of pure desparation. Please quit while you are behind.
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