student loans are a hit!

[unsunghero]

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Ok I’ll pick this article apart a bit before my jog:

“In other cases, children are skipping school because of mental health issues or because they feel disengaged after having their education derailed by the pandemic”

- Mental health issues yes. The pandemic, no. Stop with the pandemic excuse stuff, that’s old news. The problem with addressing their mental health issues is that a kid can refuse to participate in mental health services too. Can’t force a kid to talk to counselor, can you?


“School officials should meet parents where they are and ask, ‘What does your family need to get your kids in school?’ Sometimes, all it takes is a family feeling welcome in the school”

- Lol what a bunch of fairytale bullshit. Even if the schools asked this, which most don’t and instead tell the parent it’s their problem, the parent would say “I don’t know” to what the kid needs. In many situations the parents are actually trying a lot of different things

“There are many reasons why students miss school. … Punishing attendance problems fails to address the issues students face, from family responsibilities to barriers related to racism or inadequate support for disabilities”

- Lol what? Is this person actually talking to the kids? There’s 2 reasons the kids give me for not wanting to go, and it’s not poverty, disabilities or racism. They say they don’t like having to do school work and they don’t like being around other kids. But they don’t provide a racism reason, usually it’s just to their lower status on the social hierarchy and their own insecurities. Fucking racism, give me a break! Make more shit up please. Most of these schools are near-homogenous in race, either all white, all Hispanic, all black, etc just because of the area they are in

““Chronic absenteeism is a village-level problem that will take a collective approach to solve. If we all work together to call students back to the classroom.”

- Oh if we all work together? That sounds lovey doesn’t it? Too bad the schools don’t want to deal with that. Back in the day they would have truancy officers that would come grab the kids and drag them to school if needed (usually a lesson the kid only needed a few times). Now they tell the parent to go pound sand. And that’s even in front of me, they don’t even try to act different in front of outsiders

[unsunghero]

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Last post, to show the author doesn’t know what they are talking about: “family responsibilities”

If a kid at any point tells a mandated reporter like school staff that the reason they can’t go to school is they have to help look after the new baby or their younger brother or whatever, that’s a CPS call. That shit is absolutely not allowed. CPS will assist the family (for reals, they have resources to offer) or they will remove the kid. You are not legally allowed to say “sorry I’m too poor of a single parent so my kid has to help out and can’t go to school”

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Zoomers blame SCOTUS

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[Evia]

Remember like 10-15 years ago when all the talk was about how kids are becoming entitled and participation trophies for everyone was joked about ?

All those kids are becoming adults now and our culture/society has declined dramatically in taking individual responsibility for things.

it’s always someone else’s fault.

If you run out of people to point the finger at, just blame the patriarchy or white supremacy. Because of course that shit is just everywhere in 2023.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember like 10-15 years ago when all the talk was about how kids are becoming entitled and participation trophies for everyone was joked about ?

All those kids are becoming adults now and our culture/society has declined dramatically in taking individual responsibility for things.

it’s always someone else’s fault.

If you run out of people to point the finger at, just blame the patriarchy or white supremacy. Because of course that shit is just everywhere in 2023.

Good post

Welfare doesn’t help at all. No allowance, instead chores, mandatory good grades, beatings for stepping out of line, must play sports, must play piano, no screen time, etc

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHO’S BEEN CALLING IT?

WHO’S BEEN RIGHT?

Ya’ll have NO IDEA how many requests my agency gets from parents regarding their kid not wanting to go to school. Kids have figured out that the schools don’t give two shits and push all of it back on the parent. If the parent can’t physically and safely force their kid in the car, the kid has just temporarily outsmarted the entire system

We get so many requests like this during the school year it’s a guarantee to get multiple ones every. Single. Morning. And I’m not talking about repeats

“Quiet quitting” ain’t just happening with adults and it’s not quiet either. Some of these kids will raise hell to not go

And you can’t hospitalize a kid for not wanting to go to school. And if the kid doesn’t want to participate in behavioral health services like counseling either, guess what? Clinics won’t even bother to waste time signing them up

Just refuse everything until your parents can legally kick you out at 18 and be fucked. That’s too many naive kid’s plans these days

Kids can’t refuse anything. This is ridiculous

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Good post

Welfare doesn’t help at all. No allowance, instead chores, mandatory good grades, beatings for stepping out of line, must play sports, must play piano, no screen time, etc

If you haven't noticed that human nature makes most people take the path of least resistance when offered I'm not sure what planet you live on.

[unsunghero]

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Kids can’t refuse anything. This is ridiculous

Legally their parents decide on their medical and mental health treatment, but that’s on paper

If a parent wants a child to get counseling, and a child refuses, let’s explore this. How does the parent get them there? Assuming this is a teenager, does the parent tie them up, hands and feet and drag them to the car? Maybe two parents hog tie the teen then lift them on each side like police due for a violent uncooperative adult?

Speaking of police, they won’t restrain kids unless the kid is an immediate and serious danger to themselves or others. They won’t restrain them to bring them to a hospital, they won’t restrain them to bring them to school. They won’t even restrain them to bring them to a behavioral health hospital. A kid can tell a police officer they plan to kill themselves that day, and unless they are in the actual physical act of it, the cop cannot touch them. There is too much liability for them to restrain kids. A kid breaking the law past curfew can be corralled and returned home by a cop, that’s about the extent of their help

But let’s say the parent magically teleports the uncooperative kid to the counselor’s office. How exactly do you get the kid to talk? Does the counselor stick their hand up the kid’s ass and move their mouth like a puppet? Does the counselor begin to torture them, maybe waterboard them a little like they are a prisoner of war?

A kid can’t LEGALLY refuse a lot of things, until it comes time to enforce that rule. THEN, the kid can actually refuse almost everything

[unsunghero]

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Even if you could drag a kid kicking and screaming to school, all the kid has to do is run away immediately. The school staff might try to restrain the kid, especially at a school for kids with behavior problems. Then what? School staff HATE restraining kids. If a kid tantrums for long enough, the school will give up, and call the parent to come pick up the kid and the kid wins

There are some kids who will run away out of the school every single day. In this situation, I know the fantasy is that the school ties the kid to a chair and forces the kid to move the pencil and write, but that’s not the case. What do they REALLY do? They kick the kid out. And it’s on the parent to find them a new school