i dont always start threads, but when i do

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server has more people than it has for several years. This is due to Holocaust. GMs can try to take credit for telling some people that Holocaust exists but by saying that you basically admit Holocaust is your only recruitment tool for Red99.

I might be projecting, but I suspect the more common path is -

1. "Man, current gen mmos are sucking. Maybe I just need to research a better one?"
2. "Welp, there aren't any, but some mmo board suggested 'project1999'"
3. "Blue looks like a clusterfuck; months long waiting lists for raid mobs?"
4. "Reasonable exp bonus, end game potential, and PVP in case things get stale? Red looking pretty good."

No offense, but do you really think people are starting a decades old MMO specifically to play with a large lax recruitment guild?

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It makes for an interesting read to hear what other leaders and GMs think about the server. It makes me chuckle to see some angry people say this is what isn't allowing the server to flourish, etc.

The server has more people than it has for several years. This is due to Holocaust. GMs can try to take credit for telling some people that Holocaust exists but by saying that you basically admit Holocaust is your only recruitment tool for Red99. Without Holocaust Sirken wouldn't be able to get people to transfer over. GM events certainly aren't going to do it.

Now that Holocaust has provided this success outside people are trying to give advice on what Holocaust needs to do next. Don't worry about it. Sit back and do what you do and let the leaders of Holocaust continue to make this box a success.

Almost makes me wonder what would occur is there was an <Everyone Else> zerg guild to counter the zerg... 2 factions, ala WoW Alliance v. Horde

Obviously Holo = <Alliance> so lets just rename them for the bluebies they are, and roll an appropriately named counterzerg guild <Horde>, I will remove 1 <Flowers of Happiness> tagged character to contribute to the efforts of the counterzerg, and I reckon at Holo's current size, we can expect 20-30% of their numbers to readily strip off and join a new zerg for quicker pixels.... this will incite revenge pvp and kick start wild global pvp between two large factions...

seems feasible.

[fred schnarf]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It makes for an interesting read to hear what other leaders and GMs think about the server. It makes me chuckle to see some angry people say this is what isn't allowing the server to flourish, etc.

The server has more people than it has for several years. This is due to Holocaust. GMs can try to take credit for telling some people that Holocaust exists but by saying that you basically admit Holocaust is your only recruitment tool for Red99. Without Holocaust Sirken wouldn't be able to get people to transfer over. GM events certainly aren't going to do it.

Now that Holocaust has provided this success outside people are trying to give advice on what Holocaust needs to do next. Don't worry about it. Sit back and do what you do and let the leaders of Holocaust continue to make this box a success.

only reason server pop is up , is a gigantic zerg guild is getting every spawn, and unlike nihilum for once bosses are being killed during normal hours, and you dont need dkp

variance will cure this sickness

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It makes for an interesting read to hear what other leaders and GMs think about the server. It makes me chuckle to see some angry people say this is what isn't allowing the server to flourish, etc.

The server has more people than it has for several years. This is due to Holocaust. GMs can try to take credit for telling some people that Holocaust exists but by saying that you basically admit Holocaust is your only recruitment tool for Red99. Without Holocaust Sirken wouldn't be able to get people to transfer over. GM events certainly aren't going to do it.

Now that Holocaust has provided this success outside people are trying to give advice on what Holocaust needs to do next. Don't worry about it. Sit back and do what you do and let the leaders of Holocaust continue to make this box a success.

Red pop increase happened dramatically for 2 reasons #1 <fresh> #2 forced beta.
holo had nothing to do with the recent spike, give credit where it is due

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Akalakamelee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red pop increase happened dramatically for 2 reasons exp rate and the blue raid scene being a giant cesspool.
holo had nothing to do with the recent spike, give credit where it is due

FIFY

[Bodybagger]

I also want to say the large number of new players logging in and /ooc or making threads on here looking for low level guilds, probably didn't come for Holocaust recruitment considering they don't know of a low level guild recruiting.

Just a shot in the fucking dark that has NOTHING to do with you guys. Legit newbs worth 100x more than blue converts who still play blue and will be on blue come velious FYI.

Red pop likely to continue rising until velious launch then only players receiving pixels on red or who never cared about pixels will stay

[Kergan]

brain just as smaller

[HippoNipple]

Great responses from very normal people on why Holocaust didn't help the server.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great responses from very normal people on why Holocaust didn't help the server.

I think you can make reasonable arguments for helping server health (retention and such), but your original wording was pretty hyperbolic.

[Bodybagger]

Saying Holocaust helped the server is fine.... saying Holocaust single handedly grew the server pop (which most of their members filtered out of <Fresh> in the first place) is absurd. Blue raid scene is wrecked at the moment, and XP bonus draws in everyone who plays here. Without it you couldn't recruit jack shit from bleu even WITH your "protection" which is actually just yall being half the server, thereby protecting them form half the server, but then again you are at n risk of being attacked by <Holo> in any other guild anyways so really, be being in any other guild, you're protected by more of the server.

*yawn*

Who wants in <Horde> the new premier anti zerg, pro PVP, zerg guild on red99?