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Old 07-28-2014, 06:47 PM
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...any petitions should include ALL of the relevant argument for the complainant's side with a limit of 2 pages of text not counting logs & fraps as appendicies.
Yikes! Two pages of text seems like a long read; is this double spaced?
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:17 PM
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Tbh Xasten makes a good point. How many times has the law of the land changed? How many times were the slates just wiped clean? There needs to be a clear and transparent system for resolving raid disputes and it needs to be consistent. I think that's something that the staff has been working on but I could probably rattle off a dozen instances of conflict and a dozen different rulings going back a few years.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:31 PM
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hey fatty, why did TMO only get suspended from VP? you trying to keep that RMT cash flow going?
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:58 PM
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But yet we're still posting in off-topic.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:40 PM
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Yikes! Two pages of text seems like a long read; is this double spaced?
I know it's RnF, but the server really needs to have this discussion.

I know the GMs are just as frustrated as the players sorting through mounds of PMs and logs and a whole bunch of other garbage that makes them not want to log in anymore. In the end, no one is happy and everything is miserable.

I remember when Amelinda was making ad hoc rulings in VP a few years ago, and TMO submitted a "brief" to her that was anything but. We had this massive bloated discussion that ran all over the place. Everything just devolved into a "he said she said"/"am not are too" fight. We can solve this problem with strict standards. The GMs want us to petition ONLY if there's no other way to resolve the issue. If that's what they want then the rules and procedures need to encourage this. We can't just rely on a GM saying "now you guys behave, and only get mommy if someone is bleeding or loses an eye." The players just can't be trusted without the rules forcing them to do so.

Simple rules of procedure will make the petition process operate more smoothly, it will ease tensions, and, most importantly, the public & precedential nature of the decisions will help cement expectations regarding how this server is run.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:00 AM
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Bout time to re-roll GM's isn't it?
The yearly or bi yearly switch this server has had since its birth.
How did all the other switches take place. Is being MIA an excuse to push for new authority? Just some things left un touched, an I am sure others could add to the list.
Pass the ball off if you guys are done with the server.
Seriously.
i tried to quit once back when Ephi was on staff. But Rogean said no.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:47 AM
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I said I'd do some staff stuff provided I don't have to go into witness protection to do so.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:52 AM
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I said I'd do some staff stuff provided I don't have to go into witness protection to do so.
You should handle raid disputes.
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:01 AM
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You should handle raid disputes.
I totes should. Ask any of the class R guild leadership.
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:19 AM
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