not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[EchoedTruth]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am just making an observation. I just play my lvl 30 enchanter, and I'm fairly decent, and people of course talk about the game as we play.

Not a single person has told me to plan on raiding, or to look forward to it, or to even bother. They have, in fact, told me above all get it out of my head this server is worth anything once you are done just adventuring and doing some exp'ing.

Not a single person. I am assuming some of the people I have played with are alts in the end game, too.

Just an observation. Word of mouth is all bad. Call them haters, call them losers, but I'm actually speaking to the GM's: that is your idea of a server that is going to thrive? One with a reputation of having a completely botched end game?

Because at a certain point, it is not "whining" -- it becomes fact.

Not a single person.

color me crazy here, but you don't post/act like you've only played a char to 30 here... that being said - whoever told you that is barely half-right. You can raid anything up till CT / Inny / Trak / VP ... those are usually taken by TMO upon spawning. So there it is.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by EchoedTruth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

color me crazy here, but you don't post/act like you've only played a char to 30 here... that being said - whoever told you that is barely half-right. You can raid anything up till CT / Inny / Trak / VP ... those are usually taken by TMO upon spawning. So there it is.

Good point Echo.

[August]

Originally Posted by EchoedTruth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

color me crazy here, but you don't post/act like you've only played a char to 30 here... that being said - whoever told you that is barely half-right. You can raid anything up till CT / Inny / Trak / VP ... those are usually taken by TMO upon spawning. So there it is.

I can actually guarantee you that Sadre has only played a char to 30 here. As his former arch-nemesis, he is indeed a bundle of crazy.

I am also one of the people who told him that raiding wasn't worth it. We both came from Fippy progression server where raiding was shit and I likened it to be very similar - large tracking projects, poopsocking, 2-3 guilds whining at each other about FTE and lots of rampant cheating. I personally haven't witnessed any of it because I've refused to take part in any of it.

I joined a raiding guild @ 56 w/ the explicit guidelines that I wasn't going to wait at a spawn point. When I was told to go log my character at trak ledge and play an alt until he popped i realized that's just another form of it, so I took a 3 month hiatus in disgust. Back now, leveling up with my wife just trying to have fun. The response in this thread is proof positive that there is a sickness @ the top end of this server.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I joined a raiding guild @ 56 w/ the explicit guidelines that I wasn't going to wait at a spawn point. When I was told to go log my character at trak ledge and play an alt until he popped i realized that's just another form of it, so I took a 3 month hiatus in disgust. Back now, leveling up with my wife just trying to have fun. The response in this thread is proof positive that there is a sickness @ the top end of this server.

Please pray tell, tell us all about ANY past or present EQ Game or ANY server that is not the same. I dare you, double dare you.

[August]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please pray tell, tell us all about ANY past or present EQ Game or ANY server that is not the same. I dare you, double dare you.

Did i claim that such a server existed? I said the raiding was crap. Am I wrong?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did i claim that such a server existed? I said the raiding was crap. Am I wrong?

You are not wrong. I am just saying it is no different here than has ever been anywhere lol. Why do so many people have their pantyhose in a knot about it is beyond me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It AIN'T going to change. It CAN'T.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I know, there is no other EQ server in existence in which Variance is the game mechanic for raid targets. That creates about 10 unique problems to this server alone.

And the Devs have said over and over they are NOT going to touch it with a 10' pole. So unless TMO and FE just all give up and moves to the Sleeper Server guess what?? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I am not in anyway happy with this crap either. But I gave up long time ago ever getting my Driuid Epic or any Uber as hell gear on this server.

This server is almost 4 years old now. What has changed on the raid scene? Nothing. Just a few different guild names but pretty much the same old shit. And when Velious ever comes out it will be just as bad there also. We will have 1,200 people or more on. And guess what, a hell of a lot of them will be all level 60's. And a LOT of them will be in TMO. Good luck even getting into Kael, FToS etc. So nothing has happened in 4 years and you think a Thread with 65 pages is going to change anything after this long. I have some Waterfront prop I will sell you in Nevada.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correction: ONLY ROGEAN has ever said that he is against the removal of Variance. Which would argue for the removal of Rogean.

Because he *WAS* the lead developer on P99 (and has done basically nothing but delay development for the past several years) is no reason for us to subscribe to his COMPLETELY IDIOTIC and UTTERLY FAVORITIST wishes for Variance, when Nilbog and the ENTIRE LEGITIMATE RAID COMMUNITY OF P99 is against it.

Oh come on. This IS Nilbog's sandbox. If Nilbog was big time in favor of getting rid of Variance it would be gone. Your statement is just silly as far as I am concerned.

[Genedin]

so, back in the days of 1999-2000ish the everquest server Tarrew-Marr was not really like that. people pretty much shared to be nice.

[fuark]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so, back in the days of 1999-2000ish the everquest server Tarrew-Marr was not really like that. people pretty much shared to be nice.

Having raided end game tarew marr, i can confirm.

End game on p99 has never been close to the same end game that I experienced from 1999-2002.