Patch Notes: Monday, February 18th, 2013

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bonuses are bonuses because they are temporary.

if it was the statuesque, then it would not be an xp "bonus"

bonuses come and go, and the pop no longer maxes out at 45 people. you can argue that the people only showed up for the xp bonus, but i could argue that the bonus was in when the pop maxed at 45 peoople.

The only classic pvp server that had exp loss on pvp deaths also had an exp bonus. So maybe the wise thing to do is to remove the exp loss?

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only classic pvp server that had exp loss on pvp deaths also had an exp bonus. So maybe the wise thing to do is to remove the exp loss?

maybe i agree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[SamwiseRed]

true but then can we remove xp loss on pvp death. not classic feature. on sz xp loss on pvp death was made up by the xp bonus. without it you are really killing any chance of pvp thrive.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

true but then can we remove xp loss on pvp death. not classic feature. on sz xp loss on pvp death was made up by the xp bonus. without it you are really killing any chance of pvp thrive.

i said it in a different thread, but i agree it should be replaced with a different death penalty

[SamwiseRed]

i think spawning oom and naked is a pretty good penalty i mean, what are you gonna do punch someone to death?

[Infectious]

Spawn with rez effects (0 mana, 40% health and snare effects). Make it last 5 mins. You need risk/reward to pvp or you have people just acting stupid by bind rushing. I think the exp bonus with exp loss is a good trade, but this isnt my playground. But to have exp loss on pvp with no bonus is gona have anybody coming to server at a disadvantage and current people scared to pvp. If you die you can spend 2 hours getting that exp back...

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i said it in a different thread, but i agree it should be replaced with a different death penalty

My suggestion would be to remove the exp penalty, and brainstorm about different penalties afterwards. It makes no sense to hold off on removing exp loss until some better penalty is thought of, since that could take a very long time, and in the meantime players will still be feeling the effects of exp loss without a bonus to compensate.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i said it in a different thread, but i agree it should be replaced with a different death penalty

This is what frustrates the player base, here you are a GM stating that the EXP Bonus is intentional but yet:

[Sun Feb 17 15:36:54 2013] nilbog says out of character, 'Exp bonus is being investigated. Might need to wait on Rogean to see what multiplier was set at before patch.'

[Sun Feb 17 16:03:30 2013] nilbog says out of character, 'Not intentional. Waiting on Rogean to find out what previous multiplier was'

and then we have Lord Nilbog of Project 1999 saying it's not intentional.

[aborted]

things were looking very good on red 99 pvp was constantly happening at higher lvls and the grind was bareable for casual players that have kids and jobs (i was like 13 when i played eq live and i had all the time in the world to lvl up a character) now not so much time. i have a feeling alot of people my age playing are in the same boat and the people saying we need to stop crying are those with the same resposibilitiea they had at 13. The server was really feeling like live so long ago with people in every zone.

[Nirgon]

You're making the wrong argument.

"I can't play as much so it should be faster" isn't the way to go.

Zones are empty, xping is horrid, population is top heavy is the way to go with your complaint. Or address xp loss on death.

Either way, Nilbog says waiting on Rogean.