Phinigel Autropos

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

park a pet at your bind point, gate, pull pet down with you, easy. also he talked about using an animation as another option.

Assuming you load it down with buffs, you now have a pet that will last about 10 seconds before it turns on you.

[SamwiseRed]

assuming no pet classes, could this guy still be duoable? what do you think the minimum needed is. dont think ive seen anyone take him down without mage pets thats why i ask.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

assuming no pet classes, could this guy still be duoable? what do you think the minimum needed is. dont think ive seen anyone take him down without mage pets thats why i ask.

In a non-pet duo, the trick will be for your melee be level 60, have excellent resists and hps, and the other to use a Donals BP. Even if slow doesn't land, the real dangerous DPS he puts out is in the spells in the first 3 minutes.

[SamwiseRed]

i see. lets assume no donal bp or any game-breaking items. guessing you need a good 4-5 people for this?

[Holey]

1 necro 2 mages 1 cleric = GG

[Handull]

i dont see why a monk and cleric couldn't duo this easily.

and slave, u mean 10 seconds b4 phiny despells all the junk buffs and despells charm as well? kindadar said he got him down a decent % with someone training the guards, so i'd say this is duoable solo with a lot of hard work and a charmed pet.

tho i'd also say I could probably solo ixiblat and general (kith) with strings and soulfire, tho i dont really want to try. might do a test run on ixi to see how viable this is and then actually go for it at some point, but there is more to do in this game before i get to that point, heh.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phingel's dispell on a charmed pet is absolutely nothing you need to worry about. you just need to order your pets buffs appropriately so that your charm isnt at the top.

so...

charm a pet (charm is currently now the top slot) drop a ton of dummy buffs on it other than one simple fast casting dummy buff (like see invis)...

now drop your charm and root your pet. root takes the top slot. recharm pet. now your charm is way on the bottom after a ton of other buffs.

pull phingel. at his first dispell he will drop your root. replace root with see invis and recast see invis every time he dispells so that he never makes it to your charm spell down near the bottom. Dead fish.

Tried and True. done it on phingel, as well as ragefire

I question where you have tried this Catherin. I have actually tried to solo phinny and unfortunately this is not how his dispell works. Before the fight I junk buffed, HP buffed and resist buffed. As a shammy this meant I was around 12-13 buffs (leaving room for torpor etc). Upon engaging I had 0 buffs within 20 seconds. I understand that most every other mob that dispells works differently, but I can tell you that phinny is unique in this respect.

I think his dispell is a proc that happens everytime he attacks. Now what I don't know is whether the proc is aoe or not, and I do not think it is. Meaning if you somehow were to maintain agro on phinny and keep alive, your pet would be ok. The only class I can see soloing phinny is like a fantastically geared monk or warrior with puppet strings. Everyone else is either going to get the crap kicked out of them tanking phinny or will have their charm dispelled if they don't tank him.

Now as I wrote in the solo thread, on live mages could chain cast pets on phinny so long as they were able to time /pet back off to make phinny use his summon on the old pet before the new pet was cast. So like right before you new pet was about to be cast you would /pet back off, phinny would summon the old pet, and then once you kill the old pet phinny would run to you but would be met by your new pet.
However on p99, mages generate agro just by existing and phinny will not attack the new pet right away and will instead go straight at the mage. This is a bug of course and has been due to be fixed for awhile. So mages should have a chance to solo phinny but because of agro not being live-like, they are unable to here.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by tekniq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

big loraen....

he has pretty tough MR...you can land spells on him though.

i believe he dispells everytime he hits your pet, i don't think it's a recast. I found this out when my pet gets dispelled when i put DS on it.

he'll dispell your charm and then you'll die...i think it's impossible to charm a pet bc he will dispell it right away.

he has a magic/iced base spell, i think they do around 700-1000 dmg. not sure about the aoe though.

Yep all this info is credited.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I question where you have tried this Catherin. I have actually tried to solo phinny and unfortunately this is not how his dispell works. Before the fight I junk buffed, HP buffed and resist buffed. As a shammy this meant I was around 12-13 buffs (leaving room for torpor etc). Upon engaging I had 0 buffs within 20 seconds. I understand that most every other mob that dispells works differently, but I can tell you that phinny is unique in this respect.

I think his dispell is a proc that happens everytime he attacks. Now what I don't know is whether the proc is aoe or not, and I do not think it is. Meaning if you somehow were to maintain agro on phinny and keep alive, your pet would be ok. The only class I can see soloing phinny is like a fantastically geared monk or warrior with puppet strings. Everyone else is either going to get the crap kicked out of them tanking phinny or will have their charm dispelled if they don't tank him.

Now as I wrote in the solo thread, on live mages could chain cast pets on phinny so long as they were able to time /pet back off to make phinny use his summon on the old pet before the new pet was cast. So like right before you new pet was about to be cast you would /pet back off, phinny would summon the old pet, and then once you kill the old pet phinny would run to you but would be met by your new pet.
However on p99, mages generate agro just by existing and phinny will not attack the new pet right away and will instead go straight at the mage. This is a bug of course and has been due to be fixed for awhile. So mages should have a chance to solo phinny but because of agro not being live-like, they are unable to here.

He's exactly right, in all paragraphs. Except the monk and warrior would be blown away by DPS, even with Soulfire. I think only a chain-clicking 60 Cleric with Donals BP, enormous amounts of hps and magic/cold resist with Puppet Strings has a chance, and they would have to be mind-blowingly lucky to never miss a channel or get interrupted by push.

Torpor = dispelled. Dead Shamans.
Charm = dispelled. Dead Enchanters and Stringers.

[Alawen]

All of this speculation is inconsistent with what Kindadar saw in the fight. I would point the naysayers toward the solo artist challenge thread where you can read about many seemingly unwinnable fights won solo by Loraen and others. Today we were messing around with a three-man Fear break. The learning curve is pretty wicked, but I'm pretty sure we'll get it down.

Yes, you have to get lucky to win these fights with one or two people. You don't get lucky if you don't try.