Greed rolls on this "classic server"

[Spitty]

I agree with your image, and your sentiments. Losing Torpor to a necro, Malo to a monk and VotB like eight times over is just the reality of p99.

What's even dumber is NBGing shit to someone that's bright enough to immediately post it on the boards using an anonymous tag with a join date of that same day.

I get back by rolling on the JBB when I already have one. Muah, evil laugh.

[Splorf22]

I think this thread pops up because its basically a paradigm conflict. On the one hand we have the roleplayerish view of "I want to grab some friends, go out, kill some mobs, and get a few pixels" and on the other we have the minmax view of "I want to acquire loot, and pure greed is absolutely fair/does not have bad incentives for all non-monks to avoid KC etc".

The resolution to this conflict is simple: group with your ***** friends, and stop bitching about how random strangers should powerloot your char.

[theaetatus]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I'm making a point that people go by a loot rule like this are loot whores and this wasn't the loot rules of live.

It's how loot worked on my old server in pickup groups.

How is someone a 'lootwhore' when they want the same chance of loot as the rest of the group?

[Zehv9]

EQ had many servers and of course varied loot rules.

If you're after a particular item, and you want the loot handled a particular way, you should talk to your group about it the moment you join. If you don't like how it will be handled, you deal with it or leave, simple as that.

There's a lot of people throwing out the term loot whore here and it's stupid. Honestly the whole everybody greed rolls everything method is the a 100% fair way to handle it. And by fair I mean it can't be abused since RNG decides everything.

People like to get worked up in a hurry, geez.

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by Zehv9 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ had many servers and of course varied loot rules.

If you're after a particular item, and you want the loot handled a particular way, you should talk to your group about it the moment you join. If you don't like how it will be handled, you deal with it or leave, simple as that.

There's a lot of people throwing out the term loot whore here and it's stupid. Honestly the whole everybody greed rolls everything method is the only 100% fair way to handle it. And by fair I mean it can't be abused since RNG decides everything.

People like to get worked up in a hurry, geez.

EQ had no sever rules about greed looting, it was something the people took upon themselves to sort out in a greedy way or a fair way.
so a ninja looter is what? someone who loots a item without permission right? a loot whore is what? someone that expects to roll on everything. loot system should and did work as such..
1st person to win something is out on next rolls unless the next item is worth more and if they win they give the item won last to 2nd highest ect
new members get pushed to the back of the que depending on how fast they jumped into the cycle like alpha on gems. Explain to me how its more fair for 1 person to potentially get all the loot in a group? Seriously stop talking bullshit everyone in favor of greed all and tell me how its more fair.

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Any items that aren't no drop, have the potential to be an upgrade for anyone, the whole point of randoming is so a random person gets the loot, no one forces you to stay if someone is having good rolls. Get back to me when you play a shaman and have to roll against people to get one of of your most important spells. Deal with it.

um that's a retarded point.. one of many where people tryin to justify their loot whore habbit. I made this thread because it effects the consensus of the server and if you do it now or did it in live you are still a "loot whore" the phrase was invented because of people like you so deal with that...

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this thread pops up because its basically a paradigm conflict. On the one hand we have the roleplayerish view of "I want to grab some friends, go out, kill some mobs, and get a few pixels" and on the other we have the minmax view of "I want to acquire loot, and pure greed is absolutely fair/does not have bad incentives for all non-monks to avoid KC etc".

The resolution to this conflict is simple: group with your ***** friends, and stop bitching about how random strangers should powerloot your char.

Greed all is strangers powerlooting someone's char moron. what im describing is making so everyone gets a loot...!!!!!! omfg

[Zehv9]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ had no sever rules about greed looting, it was something the people took upon themselves to sort out in a greedy way or a fair way.
so a ninja looter is what? someone who loots a item without permission right? a loot whore is what? someone that expects to roll on everything. loot system should and did work as such..
1st person to win something is out on next rolls unless the next item is worth more and if they win they give the item won last to 2nd highest ect
new members get pushed to the back of the que depending on how fast they jumped into the cycle like alpha on gems. Explain to me how its more fair for 1 person to potentially get all the loot in a group? Seriously stop talking bullshit everyone in favor of greed all and tell me how its more fair.

It's 100% fair because it can't be abused. It's also highly unlikely someone would get ALL the loot. Even so, you had the exact same chance to get ALL the loot as that person did. That's in no way unfair. You are acting like this is some kind of grand scheme on my part to rob you of loot.

There's nothing wrong with what you describe either. There's no reason to be hostile.

That thing I said about people getting worked up in a hurry? Yeah, just like this.

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by Zehv9 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's 100% fair because it can't be abused. It's also highly unlikely someone would get ALL the loot. Even so, you had the exact same chance to get ALL the loot as that person did. That's in no way unfair. You are acting like this is some kind of grand scheme on my part to rob you of loot.

There's nothing wrong with what you describe either. There's no reason to be hostile.

That thing I said about people getting worked up in a hurry? Yeah, just like this.

How can the alpha system be abused? I have seen a person win all the loot in a group before as well...more than once and I know its not a grand scheme to rob someone of loot its just unfair to not just me but everyone. personally I feel if i win something the next thing that drops pending on its worth i would just give to the other person. I have no problem doing that because im not a selfish person that is my point.

[Silo69]

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