Sorry Conservatives, but Obama looks like he has this one in the bag

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What has Obama done in office that would make you happy to see him reelected? ...

• Cut prescription drug cost for medicare recipients by 50%
  
• Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act
  
• Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
  
• Signed financial reform law allowing shareholders of publicly traded companies to vote on executive pay
  
• Signed financial reform law requiring lenders to verify applicants' credit history, income, and employment status
  
• Signed financial reform law prohibiting banks from engaging in proprietary trading (trading the bank's own money to turn a profit, often in conflict with their customers' interests)
  
• The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan
  
• Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
  
• Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
  
• Appointed first Latina to the US Supreme Court
  
• Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
  
• Reversed 'global gag rule', allowing US aid to go to organizations regardless of whether they provide abortions
  
• Signed New START Treaty - nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia
  
• First president to endorse same-sex marriage equality
  
• Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
  
• Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
  
• Reversed the policy of barring media coverage during the return of fallen soldiers to Dover Air Force Base
  
• Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
  
• Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America's Veterans
  
• Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured
  
• Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
  
• Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis

theres a bunch of facts for you. now i understand that while watching only Fox News, you may not be accustomed to things like facts. but there they are.

and no, there are not two sides to the facts as Fox News loves to say. theres only one side to facts, thats why they are facts.

and if your so impressed that u find yourself asking, "my gods, what else has he done!?!" feel free to send me a PM and ill gladly wall of text.



Obama is very far from the "perfect" president, dont get me wrong. but the republicans nominated the absolute worst person they could have possibly ran. Romney is a piece of dog shit who thinks everyone is stupid. "But Sirken? how can you possibly know whats in Romney's head/thoughts?!?" thats simple too. when the words coming out of your mouth change with every different audience you speak to, it means 1 of 2 things. either the speaker is mentally retarded. or, the the speaker thinks the audience is mentally retarded.

the guy flip flops more than a fish out of water, and yet some how you feel this spineless excuse of a man should lead the country. lulz


however all that being said. it is still possible to vote for Romney and not be a dumb fucking twat. its ok to vote for Romney if you are any of these things:

1) Rich
2) Stupid
3) Racist
4) Mormon
5) Related to Romney in RL
6) Guilded with Romney on P99
7) never bothered to follow politics over the last 5 years that Romney has been running for president, and have no idea how to look up videos on the interwebz


Election Day Tuesday Nov 6 (contrary to the mass mails that republicans sent out to minority (poor neighborhood) voters in Ohio saying it was Nov 8th)


lets not forget the best quote ever by Romney's campaign manager, "we will not let this campaign be dictated by fact checkers"

/facepalm

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets not forget the best quote ever by Romney's campaign manager, "we will not let this campaign be dictated by fact checkers"

/facepalm

owned

[Tarathiel]

also, kudo's to the thread that got moved out of rnf instead of the other way around

[Yanomamo]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if your so impressed

Why'd you have to go fuck up your credibility with that mistake?

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also, kudo's to the thread that got moved out of rnf instead of the other way around

Think we can get it moved back?

[Hailto]

Just lost a lot of respect for Sirken, I thought for a minute there you might be the rare liberal who can make a point without resorting to name calling, but i was wrong. The majority of you still have the maturity of highschoolers, as evidenced by the fact that while you like to whine and moan about Fox news, most of you get your news from the Daily Show.

[Black Jesus]

Fox News is the only mainstream media source even remotely critical of the ongoing circus, which is mild at best compared to the reality we're living through.

Watching the liberal media, which worships Obama as Black Jesus, is not keeping you informed. The man flip-flopped on everything he said he would do too, because both parties are paid by the same wall street oligarchs.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just lost a lot of respect for Sirken, I thought for a minute there you might be the rare liberal who can make a point without resorting to name calling, but i was wrong. The majority of you still have the maturity of highschoolers, as evidenced by the fact that while you like to whine and moan about Fox news, most of you get your news from the Daily Show.

slow down there pal, i'm more than entitled to label dumb twats for what they are. if your voting for Romney, and not in one of the seven categories i listed, then you sir are a dumb twat.

and no, i dont get my news from a comedian. i listen to what British radio news says about us, i watch certain non crazy people on MSNBC and even on Fox News. i assume that EVERY media outlet is going to lie to the public in one way or another. MSNBC being pro-left and Fox being pro-right, with bbc news being pro-Britian

but the truth is somewhere in the middle of all the lies. and if people are smart enough, and care enough to fact check what the candidates are actually saying, then they will get close enough to the truth to make an informed decision.

however with Romney, it doesn't take rocket science to see the guy for the lying piece of shit that he is. go watch the republican primaries, re watch the debates, and then watch the videos on Romneys website. they all contradict each other. if he's not just blatantly lying and making shit up based on whoever he happens to be talking to on that day, then he has the single worst case of multiple personality disorder that i have ever seen in my life.


and for the record, you are entitled to vote anyway you want, and while i may disagree with who you want to see in the White House, i'll defend to the death your right to make that poor decision

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[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[*]Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years



theres a bunch of facts for you. now i understand that while watching only Fox News, you may not be accustomed to things like facts. but there they are.

and no, there are not two sides to the facts as Fox News loves to say. theres only one side to facts, thats why they are facts.

Lol. There aren't two sides to facts, there's just context that makes the facts meaningful -- context you're either intentionally excluding or blissfully ignorant of. Obama created jobs in 2010 that he lost in 2009. For Obama's presidency as a whole, there has been a net gain of 562,000 jobs. As a point of reference, Bush gained 1.1 million jobs in his second term -- and Clinton gained 20+ million in his presidency.

If you want to talk just private sector, Obama lost almost 4.7 million private sector jobs in his first year -- more than any year in two-plus decades. In 2010, he regained 1.2 million of those. You have to be insane to act like that's some sort of accomplishment. We lost nearly 9 million private sector jobs between 2008 and 2009, and you want to act like regaining 1.2 million in 2010 is a bullet point on a list of achievements? It's also totally disingenuous to say that 1.2 million represents more than Bush created in his entire presidency. By that reasoning, you could likewise say that Bush created more private sector jobs in 2006 (and 2005, and 2004) than Obama did in his entire presidency. The problem is that you're isolating an up year for one president and comparing it to a net total for the other.

Your next point will almost certainly be that it's Bush's fault that Obama lost jobs in 2009. Bush lost over 2 million private sector jobs in 2001, but I doubt you'd be interested in attributing that to Clinton.

Anyway, there aren't two sides to facts, but some of those facts re: Obama are cherry picked, phrased, and intentionally misrepresented to make Obama look as good as possible despite the actual context of the situation. This was just one example.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The man flip-flopped on everything he said he would do too...

wall street reform [X]
healthcare [X]
Bin Laden [X]
Guantanamo Bay [ ] (closed one camp, failed to close the other 2. all 3 together make up Guantanamo)
Dont ask Dont tell [X]



while Obama may not have hit all his marks, and may have even been unsuccessful in certain areas, thats not nearly the same as flip flopping, but i'd love to hear some examples of this flip flopping.



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