What do you think about PL'ers?

[Reiker000]

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[godbox]

unrest is really just too good to pass up for a PL i try to do it during low pop times if im gonna but you can take someone 1-20 in 2 hours easily just rounding up whole zone with a DS and sitting down with topor on.
and since there all undead they dont run (what makes guk dangerous)

and its good for a few reasons
a) gives people who have PL classes a way to make money as they enter into the territory where they can PL.
b) lets people get over some frustrating humps in different classes to get to the place there interested in playing. (i.e. where a necro can out dmg there pet or damage and haste caps at 20 for melee)
c) is something people like to do w/ friends / guildies thats casual and fun at 60

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Reiker000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mistmoore is loaded with casters so I'm not sure where you got that. But sure, Unrest and Mistmoore are loved by PLers for the same reason that groups love them: high zems and dense mobs. So what? Suck it up and get 10% less XP rather than ruining the day of the groups that are XPing there.

Also the whole 'kunark mobs hit harder' just isn't true on 1999, in my experience every mob <= 50 hits for f(level) which doesn't depend on zone. The most important thing is ZEM.

Let me rephrase : none of common mobs in mistmoore *heal*. Just the odd warder in the GY and like maybe the emotologist.

I am 100% on board with the concept that if anyone with a pulse in the actual levelling range of the area is trying to experience EQ like god intended, then yeah, don't be a weiner and move your camp elsewhere. Or at the least give them a full camp's worth of mobs.. and dont be stingy with the names (like a PLer is going to need a friggin savant cap or crested helm or whatever..)

All i was really answering was the original question of 'why are they in unrest and mistmoore and not spread out" which is: very few running mobs, very few casters (esp healers) and a large level range of mobs to continuously xp upon. Which, oddly enough, is exactly why NON PLers would prefer those zones too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[godbox]

two boxing is so drastically different from PLing...
I dont know anyone personally who has PL'd 1-60 on any toon even people with heavy PL 1-40 get in the mix on a level here and there. and once there of appropriate level a PL turns into a duo with drops going to 2 different people at least.

maybe its troll thread but I think seeing the devs take into consideration a change in varience has pushed other people to start fishing for other areas to try and whip up public support for another change. I never lvld high enough for AA's on live so I have no idea what they entail but dont try and draw a line PL to 2boxing

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by godbox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

two boxing is so drastically different from PLing...
I dont know anyone personally who has PL'd 1-60 on any toon even people with heavy PL 1-40 get in the mix on a level here and there. and once there of appropriate level a PL turns into a duo with drops going to 2 different people at least.

maybe its troll thread but I think seeing the devs take into consideration a change in varience has pushed other people to start fishing for other areas to try and whip up public support for another change. I never lvld high enough for AA's on live so I have no idea what they entail but dont try and draw a line PL to 2boxing

Believe me when I say that it becomes terrible 51+, very very little progress on hours and hours. For the most part it's easier to group. Also, you don't group with the other person.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe me when I say that it becomes terrible 51+, very very little progress on hours and hours.

Depends on the combo. If you're talking about the favorite PL of most people from 1-30, a druid, then yeah, 51+ is probably going to be abysmal.

But if you're talking about a 60 sham PLing a twinked monk, or a 60 necro PLing a twinked rogue, or a cleric BP healing a warrior, etc., then the PL is going to be at least a few times as fast as a group would be... especially if you're talking about the makeshift groups that get thrown together at odd hours.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the combo. If you're talking about the favorite PL of most people from 1-30, a druid, then yeah, 51+ is probably going to be abysmal.

But if you're talking about a 60 sham PLing a twinked monk, or a 60 necro PLing a twinked rogue, or a cleric BP healing a warrior, etc., then the PL is going to be at least a few times as fast as a group would be... especially if you're talking about the makeshift groups that get thrown together at odd hours.

I haven't ever had a 60 shaman pl, but I've grouped with one on my monk I'd definitely say that it's pretty quick, but it's no where near as fun as chain pulling mobs in a group at 51+. I guess I was fortunate enough to find pretty solid groups to where 51+ went quicker in a group than duoing or getting pled by a shaman. There's just something about pulling all of top level of KC and hitting a decent portion of basement mobs at 2 am in a good group. I suppose at least for me there was a point where it became too much for me to handle.

[SCB]

I honestly don't know why more people don't PL in Runneye. That place is insane for it, and there's never a soul there to complain.

[mgellan]

PLing is fine just don't be a douche and rape zones where ppl are levelling. Personally I've done the 1-50 journey multiple times, I'd rather skip that and spend my online time doing 51-60 stuff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Mg

[Caso]

I got my 2 acc 2005 and i was sure not the only one boxing on AB.

About to take all mobs in a camp, its pure rudness imo, if i was exping or farming and there inc ppl who could get exp from the camp , i let them have it and go somewhere els, as a boxer ya have more then 1 option to get ya exp and gear, simple is that, play nice.