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Old 10-20-2012, 10:57 PM
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Its an inherit problem with any sort of epic weapon and any future content.
I agree completely on this. Epic weapons were VERY poorly designed. Each class should have had a single item to quest for that was "epic" in nature. Rangers should have had, maybe one off-hand sword, Paladins a shield or something, vary the slots. Wizards could have been a ring, etc.etc. Keep the slots different and unique so you don't have scenarios where main hand items never get used again.

I am of the opinion that epics should have been allowed to obsolete, and I feel the same way about primal. Avatar procing weapons were just STUPID. Make them proc Primal Essence and maybe an extra +20 atk on it or whatever.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:38 PM
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Augs are cool because... well say you put in all kinds of time to get your epic. A lot of them become replaced by Velious. So, you put in all this effort to get this bad ass weapon that's supposed to be a token of your class, only to kill some random mob in Velious and upgrade it. If augs were around, they could have put in a mini "1.5" quest to get an aug that would fit in the epic to upgrade it, keeping them relevant.
I don't have an issue with augs, though where epics are concerned I'd prefer just continuing the quest like 1.5/2.0 etc did.

Curious, what epics are upgraded by random mobs in Velious? That sounds much more like WoW than Velious. All the caster, priest epics were still BiS at the end of Velious as I recall. Some vulak loot was better than melee epics, and some other dragon loot made for some arguments but hardly random mobs as far as I can remember....

Even in Luclin the caster epics were still very relevant and for casual melees as well...
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:57 PM
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Curious, what epics are upgraded by random mobs in Velious? That sounds much more like WoW than Velious. All the caster, priest epics were still BiS at the end of Velious as I recall. Some vulak loot was better than melee epics, and some other dragon loot made for some arguments but hardly random mobs as far as I can remember....

Even in Luclin the caster epics were still very relevant and for casual melees as well...
I think he meant random mobs as raid mobs, not snow cougars and shit.

The only epic not replaceable in Velious (outside of clicks) is the bard epic.
Wizard, Enchanter, Mage, and Necromancer - Staff of the Silent Star
Cleric - Blackstar + Sprinkler
Shaman/Druid - Sprinkler of Spirits
Monk - technically DoVassirs qualify here, but not realistically upgraded until PoP imo.

The melee weapons all have numerous examples.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:35 PM
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Halfling rangers just make sence. I played so many different race/class combinations on live but never got into any of them as much as I did my halfling ranger.. I would be playing right now I think if the race/class combo was opened up.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:04 PM
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This is all a very long way off btw, but it's kind of cool to brainstorm about it.
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Tell me why you hate cat people rogean.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:10 PM
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I disliked the addition of the cat people, and don't think augments should be introduced, game isn't broken. What was that terminology again.. if it ain't broke don't...
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:43 PM
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Rogean, it's great to see that you are at least open to some of this. Though I agree with others that Vah Shir isn't nearly that big of a stretch and is even supported by previous lore. There are even old school cat models to fit in visually.

IMO, there is lots of great content in Luclin that would be foolish to skip.

Some if the more basic AA such as mitigation, innates, and spell casting mastery would be great as well.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:48 PM
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I believe people fail to realize - these "AA's" were released to handle content we don't have intentions of seeing
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:42 PM
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I believe people fail to realize - these "AA's" were released to handle content we don't have intentions of seeing
Well, if you read back in the thread it appears that it hasn't been explicitly ruled out by staff. I think it's too early to tell really. After Velious has set in a good while this server might very well need a boost to player retention. Population WILL dwindle at a certain point and its up to the staff to either be smart about it or accept it as is.

Also, like it or not, EQC will be knocking on the door at some point. P99 could take steps to set itself apart in a positive way.
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