Don't do LSD or the police will kill you.

[Tarathiel]

personally acid was always easy to control, not like shrooming where one minute everything is sunshine and rainbows and the next minute satan himself is talking to you in your bathroom mirror

[Rkahor]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

personally acid was always easy to control, not like shrooming where one minute everything is sunshine and rainbows and the next minute satan himself is talking to you in your bathroom mirror

This is basically my experience as well. I've done both tons of times. Acid's always felt cleaner and way more controllable. But honestly there's tons of "fake"/substitute drugs on the market these days, DOI and DOB are the main culprit for fake acid and are both amphetamine's. But you can put whatever you want on a blotter sheet and say its LSD. I always test all my shit that I get cause I'm not trying to take bath salts or any other "experimental"/new chemical that makes you fucked up.

The officers definitely used excessive force if you taze someone 14 times when they are already in handcuffs. There's no way they couldn't have realized there's definitely something wrong with this kid and hes not acting like a normal person would. They should be trained to see when someone is off their rocker and obviously doesn't even realize what they are doing. I can tell just by looking into someones eyes and their body language if they are fucked up on acid/molly/coke/prescriptions pills or whatever drug of choice for the night.

The kid shares the blame though, he knew he was taking drugs and whatever comes after is his responsibility. If you can't handle your shit or took the time and research to know what may happen it's no one elses fault but your own. Unless I trust my source or have my test kit on me I'm not gonna buy random drugs from a festival hopping hippy that swears his shit is the fucking bomb. People are in the drug business to make money, and if you can make or obtain "fake" drugs way cheaper and give you similar effects, you know they are going to. The whole situation is fucked up in general.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Rkahor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is basically my experience as well. I've done both tons of times. Acid's always felt cleaner and way more controllable. But honestly there's tons of "fake"/substitute drugs on the market these days, DOI and DOB are the main culprit for fake acid and are both amphetamine's. But you can put whatever you want on a blotter sheet and say its LSD. I always test all my shit that I get cause I'm not trying to take bath salts or any other "experimental"/new chemical that makes you fucked up.

Good point. One more benefit of drug legalization is better quality. Prohibition makes it more likely that you take a substance that you're not prepared for. When you buy a can of coke, you can be sure it's not going to be filled with coffee, orange juice, or scat.

[Orruar]

I think one mistake that nearly everyone makes is the idea that laws are the only means of controlling human action. We're conditioned so that when we identify a problem with the human condition, such as drug addiction, we immediately look to government to solve it. It's good to want to solve problems, but government is no panacea cure for all troubles. Laws have much less influence on the actions of people than we would like to think. People form their own opinions of right and wrong and act accordingly. The only thing the law brings to the table is adding the threat of violence into the equation. Everything that follows is simply fruit of the poisonous tree (the Biblical definition, not the common law evidentiary meaning).

[stonez138]

personally acid was always easy to control, not like shrooming where one minute everything is sunshine and rainbows and the next minute satan himself is talking to you in your bathroom mirror

Wow seriously? You're the first person I've ever heard say that. LSD is one of the most powerful illicit drugs. A tiny ammount gets you extremly fucked up for hours on end. I always found shrooms to be nothing but pleasant, aside from minor nausea. Of course I never ate more then a gram or two probably a different experience if you munch down a quarter ounce or something.

On a side not have you ever seen the old video where some British soldiers are given lsd to see if the can function and one of them ends up climbing a tree or something. Pretty funny stuff.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow seriously? You're the first person I've ever heard say that. LSD is one of the most powerful illicit drugs. A tiny ammount gets you extremly fucked up for hours on end. I always found shrooms to be nothing but pleasant, aside from minor nausea. Of course I never ate more then a gram or two probably a different experience if you munch down a quarter ounce or something.

On a side not have you ever seen the old video where some British soldiers are given lsd to see if the can function and one of them ends up climbing a tree or something. Pretty funny stuff.

the thing about acid, is if you get it from a reliable source you know exactly what you are taking and can plan accordingly. with shrooms there are literally thousands of different strains all with varying quantities of psylocibin and the other goodies that get you fucked up. ive eaten a 7 grams that gave me little more than a body fry and a good head trip and 2 grams that made the walls of my bedroom melt, it seems like its just luck of the draw lol.

[Greegon]

nothin cool about LSD pals. I had a friend who did it way too much and he is now literally insane.. you just cannot approach the guy as it makes you uncomfortable to talk w/ him. After (he was already) like this he got puddled @ a concert and had to be sent to the ER because he rubbed his neck really hard for hours and to this day with tell you about how there is a 'metaphysical' snake living in his spine...Enough is simply not known about the brain and how this shit can affect it & your perception of reality... Honestly I felt better mixing benzos+painkillers+alcohol than taking hallucinos which is so so incredibly dumb.

And also, nothing ever made me trip hard as salvia. Was literally in fucking tears, living a 'lifetime' of torment. WOW.

[Rkahor]

Originally Posted by Greegon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothin cool about LSD pals. I had a friend who did it way too much and he is now literally insane..

I understand that any drug isn't honestly cool. But did you follow this pal around his whole life or knew wwhat he was ingesting every time he did it? I'm gonna have to say you probably don't. This seems to just be the generally consensus for people who aren't informed. ANY drug can trigger some deep down depression/schizophrenia/or whatever else problem you already had that was just waiting to wake up.

I've taken LSD at least 50 times in my life and I'm walking living proof there isn't anything wrong with my head(opinions may vary lol) but I'm definitely still sane and able to function like a normal person. Each person reacts differently to any substance, drug or not.

Originally Posted by Greegon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And also, nothing ever made me trip hard as salvia. Was literally in fucking tears, living a 'lifetime' of torment. WOW.

I'll agree that salvia is up there for making you trip like a mother fucker. But my experience was great. I thought I was in space and circling the orbit and just could not stop laughing.

If you want a REAL damn trip try some DMT. I've never been so fucked up in my life and I was walking around and talking to people. Had a fucking blast.

Know your own body and limitations and shit like getting tazed 14 times wont happen.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Greegon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And also, nothing ever made me trip hard as salvia. Was literally in fucking tears, living a 'lifetime' of torment. WOW.

after smoking salvia i was convinced that there was a spirit trying to talk to me and that they only way to get the answers i was seeking was to smoke more salvia, very very intense and crazier than anything ive experienced off of acid or shrooms.

[Greegon]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

after smoking salvia i was convinced that there was a spirit trying to talk to me and that they only way to get the answers i was seeking was to smoke more salvia, very very intense and crazier than anything ive experienced off of acid or shrooms.

LOL ever had salvia make gravity pull in different directions before? felt like I was getting stretched up/down at same time once.. another time I just kept falling backwards.

Fucking bizzare--thank god this shit is illegal[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]