Proposed Resist System Changes - Lucy

[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im not trying to troll you but if you think a monk taking out a whole raid is balanced you are mentally retarded. even surviving 4v1 is laughable and there is no way that is balanced unless you are talking about taking on 4 afkers. if that is truely end game classic eq pvp and that is what this server wants then im for it, i just dont want any part of godmode pvp.

It wasn't godmode. I usually died (and rarely ever killed anyone in a full raid, it was more just for show / disruption), but not because of someone spamming root onto me. They had to actually do more than just click one spell icon while drooling on their keyboard.

[SamwiseBanned]

I fail to see your survival being any higher if the raid decided to all nuke instead of root. would you rather take 4 roots with a 1/10 chance to land or 4 ice comets?

[SearyxTZ]

4 ice comets


it has a cast time

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im not in favor of those things, they were obviously imba. my point is eq classic dev team did not have everything right. resists are a tricky thing to tweak. compare eq lives start to this one. on this server everyone knew exactly what to get and where. you've taken every advantage you can gain on this server. you joined uprising to level so you could avoid the zerg then ended up joining the high end zerg. at one point Nihilum had the entire server on farm status when the numbered dwindled to 4 to 5 players on at night. to tell me the eq dev team 13 years ago balanced the game around a one guild server is crazytalk.

[tokso]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here: Druids are stronger. They can land their retarded DD-root spells here. SKs are also stronger. Paladins, too. Yep... three of the best pvp classes on live were effectively buffed under this custom system. Monks and rogues? They're worse.

you're high as fuck if you think any melees are bad in kunark, whether root is landing 2% or 0% of the time. ESPECIALLY monks.

[SearyxTZ]

and yet this server seemingly balanced against it, unless the goal was to give the guild with the zerg numbers an even greater advantage by allowing them to land cc spells on the 1 guy to their 10


Like I said earlier you can't even chance a 1v3 here because your ability to escape or outmaneuver anyone is severely diminished

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and yet this server seemingly balanced against it, unless the goal was to give the guild with the zerg numbers an even greater advantage by allowing them to land cc spells on the 1 guy to their 10


Like I said earlier you can't even chance a 1v3 here because your ability to escape or outmaneuver anyone is severely diminished

Not with high MR. again I have never landed Root on Feen, Tehruoh, Wakawaka, or Hughman. I don't even try now. waka is not even a warrior, he just had high mr. some honorable mentions are Ordaga (I think ive rooted once) and Chewie (rooted twice.)

[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by tokso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're high as fuck if you think any melees are bad in kunark, whether root is landing 2% or 0% of the time. ESPECIALLY monks.

I played both classes. A long tstaff proc opens up possibilities, but let's not consider class balance based on one item.

Winged Death alone is half of a monk's total HPs. The cast time on nullify magic is enough to get hit with starfire/wildfire (or drifting death). I went through that song and dance too many times to count. A Monk's pvp potential was always limited to either catching stupid people in tight indoor corridors or getting lucky with a tstaff proc and popping innerflame.

Why is this more lenient resist system better? Were pure melee overpowered in either old world or kunark? Because I'm pretty sure they were a joke in old world and passable-with-the-best-gear in kunark.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats the problem, you have no understanding of whats classic, or how well it was balanced. The people that made EQ were tweaking Rallos zek and the resist tables from beta. It wasn't the afterthought people like to pretend it was so they can still maintain their hardcore badass image while hiding on blue servers.

again did the Dev team 13 years ago balance the game around todays population that knows what to get and where? all day you've talked about the magic first root and provided 2 partial logs. never providing accurate level range between you and the caster or your MR. all i wanted was some kind of evidence that you consistently get rooted first cast with 171 mr that you have claimed. i am sure youll find another way to reply without answering anything ive asked.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played both classes. A long tstaff proc opens up possibilities, but let's not consider class balance based on one item.

Winged Death alone is half of a monk's total HPs. The cast time on nullify magic is enough to get hit with starfire/wildfire (or drifting death). I went through that song and dance too many times to count. A Monk's pvp potential was always limited to either catching stupid people in tight indoor corridors or getting lucky with a tstaff proc and popping innerflame.

Why is this more lenient resist system better? Were pure melee overpowered in either old world or kunark? Because I'm pretty sure they were a joke in old world and passable-with-the-best-gear in kunark.

if you are trying to balance everquest around 1v1 encounters you are doomed to fail.

this isnt wow. the game was not built around every class being equal. a rogue can barely solo a blue mob but should fair well against 3 players?

despite the rogues lack of durability, he still tops most dps charts. same goes for pvp, he may not take down a group of players but when you throw him into group pvp encounters, he becomes a dps monster especially since rogues/monks arent a priorty target when there are casters running around. you have to look at balance from all sides not just being a solo ganker.