Class/Race Rant

[Strifer]

Originally Posted by filthyphil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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this example ends all further discussion

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by ccs88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After getting back into the game I'm kind of amazed how imbalanced the class/race combos are. Perhaps WoW ruined my MMO ideals, but I can't create a character anymore without thinking about numbers and end game use.

For example, why would anyone in their right mind play a human monk over an iksar?
Why are Barbarians even able to be rogues, and why are the arguably the best race for a rogue? They're not stealthy. They're a big loud race. Makes no sense! Why do rangers suck so bad, yet it's the class a lot of people want to play the most. The advantage ogres/troll have for warriors and shadowknights are ridiculous over other races. And more stuff. And more stuff.

I just needed to put this in writing somewhere. I'm not really too pissed and I'll still play.
I have to remind myself that EQ was about roleplaying more so than elitism to a point.

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The racial benefits are only going to have an impact at the lowest levels. Gear means so much more than naked stats. A cheal chain wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an ogre warrior or a gnome warrior. Well, the gnome will have better evasion and look cooler...

[godbox]

havnt we reached a point as gamers where we understand max mana pool / int is essentially useless since you never burn your entire pool

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by godbox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

havnt we reached a point as gamers where we understand max mana pool / int is essentially useless since you never burn your entire pool

This is why it makes much more sense to stack hp on a shaman than wis.

[godbox]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why it makes much more sense to stack hp on a shaman than wis.

i always feel like its situation on a sham some fights I canni or risk takin hits so ya its all sta/hp/ac others I know im gonna spam heals (like if you are main heal on somethin not slowable) then I try to stack my mana pool as high as I can in case I cant get alot of cannis in.

[Mayhem2]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Verant didn't have much of a benchmark when they were developing EQ, they were treading new water and fucked a lot of the balance up. Pretty much it.

Yep. In imo they got the majority of it right.

13 years later, look at all the piss poor mmo's that have come out. The irony is the fact that, the way was pretty much paved for everyone else. WoW mastered it on a subscription level (easy mode, omg my 6 year old can play I don't have to parent anymore, button masher), yet was just not as fun in any way shape or form.

PS - Lol @ filthyphil. Someone is upset they didn't/couldn't choose an Iksar Necro.....

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Mayhem2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

easy mode, omg my 6 year old can play I don't have to parent anymore, button masher

Just because you logged onto WoW free trial once and you could kill level 1 noobie mobs with 2 frostbolts doesn't quite mean that the whole game is faceroll easy.

Very few adults can faceroll the game, hence the HM/normal separation, and now the LFR difficulty also. I'd pay good money to see a 10-year-old handle a raid of HMs that the raid doesn't vastly outgear, let alone someone younger than that.

[filthyphil]

Originally Posted by Mayhem2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS - Lol @ filthyphil. Someone is upset they didn't/couldn't choose an Iksar Necro.....

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I would neva be a lizid.

[Nordenwatch]

Iksar necro is by far the best, mitigating the damage from lich through innate iksar regen makes it so the necro can cast the leach line spell less often, making them much more mana efficient. Vexing Mordinia costs 495 mana to cast and heals for 111 a tic, while its an amazing heal it is still extremely costly.

And why are you working so hard to cap int? it doesn't matter all that much, at 60 you should be balancing your spells in such a way that the mana regen is about equal to the rate of mana spending. Necros especially should be stacking HP as much as they can. Its a larger pool for mordinia to be able to fill and having more hp = less death.

I made a human necro when I knew nothing about this game and have regretted not making an iksar for about a year now, I advise all necros to be iksar.

[Kexon]

Gnome Warriors are accually fun to play ... Ogres may have advantages , but honestly its gear that matters in this game .