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Old 08-14-2012, 04:59 PM
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Farming plats or camping numerous spawns with high level characters to gear up a low level alt; that's a twink.
Yeah, exactly. This happened all the time. I cede that it was less often from 2000-2001 than it is on p99. But it wasn't uncommon in the least.

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The common player did not really twink (hence, "uncommon")
The common player in 2000/2001 is not the common player on p99. That's also something I mentioned.

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It started to occur near the end of classic; and picked up during Kunark. By Velious, heavy twinking was in full force.
Sure, granted - and this is because Kunark and Velious were barely a year apart - new content exploded, relatively, compared to what has happened on p99. That's a valid point - we hit the relative content ceiling pretty quickly and forcefully on p99.


But it still doesn't justify a server wipe or splitting an already small population between two servers. Period.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:38 PM
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Hey, so I would like to try and get this thread back on track.

What I was saying in my original post is that I would LOVE to experience the standard Vanilla server reset from a blank slate. The only EQ I ever played was Vanilla, and I played from nearly day 1 until the release of Kunark.

So I guess what I am putting up are the following two questions:

1) If we started a fund of donations to get a new server rolling, how much do we need to raise?

2) Are any of the staff really even interested in this idea? It takes work.



I think a lot of people would jump at the chance to begin anew. But I may be wrong.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:29 PM
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Come to red, super xp bonus in effect. Kunark is coming out this week. Come experience eq pvp.

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what started out as ganks here and there went onto small skirmishes and now a war is a brewing. Join the fight bros.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:30 PM
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I think a lot of people would jump at the chance to begin anew. But I may be wrong.
You're definitely right, but its just not going to happen with P99. Try to enjoy the server as it is and hold out for that other classic EQ project that has been in the works since 2009.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:39 PM
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...But it still doesn't justify a server wipe or splitting an already small population between two servers. Period.
I didn't say anything about a wipe or splitting the population. Start a new server fund; then a bunch of us will donate and come back if it launches. If some other players on blue leave to join the new server; that's not really my problem. Sounds like you want to force everyone to play on your server. Why?
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:46 PM
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1) If we started a fund of donations to get a new server rolling, how much do we need to raise?
This is actually an unanswerable question since identifying the amount would equate to marketing Sony's intellectual property.
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Yea well you know, 6 years of Velious everything has been killed, only thing left to do is speedrun killing Detoxx guilds.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:52 PM
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I didn't say anything about a wipe or splitting the population. Start a new server fund; then a bunch of us will donate and come back if it launches. If some other players on blue leave to join the new server; that's not really my problem. Sounds like you want to force everyone to play on your server. Why?
Ya It can split the population. But then again, if it's what people want why not? I would at least think an inquiry post with a poll would be necessary. See how many people are interested in doing that opposed to the ones who aren't.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:26 PM
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Sounds like you want to force everyone to play on your server.
Why?
Please tell me where I was applying force.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:41 AM
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The real answer is enforcing the "don't be a dick" rule on this server. Wiping the dickery niche from the ecosystem would account for almost all the problems we experience here.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:37 AM
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Wiping the server will only discourage casuals, the hardcores will be hardcore no matter what.
This is a point I bring up often that seems like it's news to a lot of people.

I am a time starved power gamer. I'd like to have the time to be in a high end raid guild like I was in live. The reality is that I am not going to get to. I don't have the time to contribute to such a guild. I slowly farm and trade to get decent gear. It's something I can do in little bits and pieces over time.

If the server were wiped, then I'm the kind of player that would probably move along and play something else. It wouldn't be worth it to me to get back to where I am now. It's already taken me two years =)

I understand every argument that's for a wipe, but I've never agreed. These threads have been popping up since I was L1 and I've never agreed with a server wipe. The only time I was tempted to agree was right after the hundreds of suspensions due to the showeq two boxing crap. It seemed like the server had been compromised. Even so, in hindsight... it's always going to be that way on any server in any game.

I guess, selfishly, I'd hate to have to find something else to play. There's no other MMO that I've played that hasn't moved into their own "Luclin and beyond" era.

Words and typed sentiments.
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