PvP exp loss

[Dullah]

Not true trollborn, exp loss is a serious problem when you're ultra bad.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We should make getting gear harder than just sitting in a raid zone uncontested for months and let them get their gear difference always bigger and bigger.

Maybe I misunderstood what you mean't. The best players, the best team, doesn't always win! (Or maybe they do) But if you're number #1 then your number #1! If you want to be on top then you have to take it from who's on top! No need to change the rules...Just go get it! Like you said sitting in fear uncontested is boring! I don't mean to be so harsh but I'm just tired of seeing people cry and complain when the only solution if it matters that much is to go WIN! The difference in losing and winning in any aspect of life is if you can take a loss and get back up and go at it again! If Vae Victis or anyone for that matter is going to beat Nihilium they need to be prepared to lose. But isn't that what makes this fun?

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tradesonred, please read this quote again from a brand new pvp player.

The xp loss is trivial.

You are worried about nihilum (or whoever) farming raid zones for gear edge? then STFU and do something about it.

I repeat: Even new players to the server think the xp loss is trivial, you are just full of excuses.

Im not worried, i know nobody will challenge you unless they zerg back to close to your numbers, and thats not likely to happen.

Even if they did, wed have the same problem, one zerg guild strangleholding raid zones forever with no contest.

I dont even care anymore, i know what will happen, ill just have my fun for a month and quit when the box dies again. Just would rather box stay alive, pvp would happen more and i could stick around cuz im having fun.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not worried, i know nobody will challenge you unless they zerg back to close to your numbers, and thats not likely to happen.

Even if they did, wed have the same problem, one zerg guild strangleholding raid zones forever with no contest.

I dont even care anymore, i know what will happen, ill just have my fun for a month and quit when the box dies again. Just would rather box stay alive, pvp would happen more and i could stick around cuz im having fun.

That's not the attitude. Would love to have a conversation with you in Mumble or whatever in the future! I'll be around! 1st goal is to get as many to 50 as possible. So people with hundred alts need to focus on one toon and help others get there first!

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I misunderstood what you mean't. The best players, the best team, doesn't always win! (Or maybe they do) But if you're number #1 then your number #1! If you want to be on top then you have to take it from who's on top! No need to change the rules...Just go get it! Like you said sitting in fear uncontested is boring! I don't mean to be so harsh but I'm just tired of seeing people cry and complain when the only solution if it matters that much is to go WIN! The difference in losing and winning in any aspect of life is if you can take a loss and get back up and go at it again! If Vae Victis or anyone for that matter is going to beat Nihilium they need to be prepared to lose. But isn't that what makes this fun?

Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.

No one stays on top forever.

[heartbrand]

The issue isn't xp loss it's that most people who play on this server seem to be here so they can raid classic content and don't really care much about the pvp aspect of the server. No one will be able to contest nihilum here unless somehow this pop breaks 200+. Not happening.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats my whole point, nobody will bother challenging them, trust me ive been there. FF basically do nothing but pvp, talk alot of shit and they didnt want to go in and challenge nihilum cuz its pointless. You cant win a war of attrition with xp pvp loss.

Without xp loss, you could go after Nihilum say 15 to 30, focus fire the worst players and make em log first. Then try to move in the main group 15 to 25. But with xp loss the time you have to spend getting all taht xp back makes it that nobody tries.

I will try trust me, but also trust me, history will repeat itself morale will drop and nobody will challenge nihi if xp loss stays.

Oh item loot. Sweet, sweet item loot. If a guild wants to roll around with nice droppables, they should run the risk of them being lootable.

[heartbrand]

Nothing has changed here from what I've seen. It's still the same guild that has literally almost every single level 50 on the server in it, a second guild that's trying to zerg up that doesn't really have any cohesion or leadership (uprising 2.0), the inevitable mass exodus of many people who either quit or join nihilum, etc. etc. On this server you have really only two choices. Join nihilum and farm pixels or make a druid or wiz and port around ganking people. Neither sounds too fun to me.

Boxing would make this server so much more fun. It would provide new guilds a chance to do raids they cant do, provide less incentive to zerg here, create more groups, encourage people who are PLing others to continue doing so since they can put their alt in it. Dunno.

edit: I hope I'm wrong and I'm trying to help out and level people toss some items give ports, but I don't think I am.

[Znif]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing has changed here from what I've seen. It's still the same guild that has literally almost every single level 50 on the server in it, a second guild that's trying to zerg up that doesn't really have any cohesion or leadership (uprising 2.0), the inevitable mass exodus of many people who either quit or join nihilum, etc. etc. On this server you have really only two choices. Join nihilum and farm pixels or make a druid or wiz and port around ganking people. Neither sounds too fun to me.

edit: I hope I'm wrong and I'm trying to help out and level people toss some items give ports, but I don't think I am.

you might be right or you might be wrong but should be a fun month atleast!