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Old 07-21-2012, 12:30 AM
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Per my understanding, he had tear gas and whatnot which I believe is already banned chemical weaponry for civilians and in war (though great for law enforcement to use against occupy)... could be wrong though. If so then yea, bad guys are just going to get bad things either way.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:36 AM
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Lol all the ninny people screaming take guns, this is about A crazy man. + What a big coincidence this happened to take place 2 weeks before Obama signs a UN gun treaty, he didnt have enough senate/house behind him to pass it though, but after this shit who knows, Guns dont kill people, thats like saying ban all cars because they kill people or make them "harder to get", wake the fuck up an look at the propaganda being spewed on this, Check out drugs like Devils Breath etc, i believe there is more to this than meets the eye ... Banning guns does not result in less crime! but rather the opposite, look at statistics for example , a lot of countries around the world have banned guns, and than good lawful people turn in their firearms, you know who doesnt? the criminals, an crime rate spikes insanely because they know you dont have a gun to protect yourself. I agree with Autotune. Prayers for the familys involved but guns are not at fault. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5igq...ture=g-all-lik
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:54 AM
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Honestly... this post shouldn't be degraded into a petty argument about gun control, regardless of the side. People died and your politics don't matter. stop disrespecting the casualties with your propaganda, please.

My condolences to the families and friends who have lost someone in this pointless bullshit. My best wishes to those recovering.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:45 AM
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Honestly... this post shouldn't be degraded into a petty argument about gun control, regardless of the side. People died and your politics don't matter. stop disrespecting the casualties with your propaganda, please.
? if you have a brain its not degrading anything but rather enlightening the thread. Since when is it causing a loss of self respect or humiliating to talk about gun control / politics? Especially since the Mainstream media has talked about it all morning regarding this case, and hardly mentioning the victims or the family's but just the Mugshot of the guy over and over an talking about how we need Gun control, i hope you are posting this all over CNN/FOX/ABC/MSNBC etc because they are a lot worse than whats said here my friend.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:50 AM
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? if you have a brain its not degrading anything but rather enlightening the thread. Since when is it causing a loss of self respect or humiliating to talk about gun control / politics? Especially since the Mainstream media has talked about it all morning regarding this case, and hardly mentioning the victims or the family's but just the Mugshot of the guy over and over an talking about how we need Gun control, i hope you are posting this all over CNN/FOX/ABC/MSNBC etc because they are a lot worse than whats said here my friend.
well, see.. there's the problem, sex and violence sells in mass media, and what better thing to try to justify your cause than the largest mass shooting in U.S. history? If it had been orchestrated by a lady in a cat woman outfit the whole thing would be a thousand times more blown out of proportion than it already is. I admit that I may have flown off the handle with my response, but the whole ordeal saddens me to a degree that I can't functionally explain without sounding like more of a lunatic than I'm already perceived.

Gun control just leaves people defenseless, since the 'criminal element' is still going to have access to guns. No gun control means that anyone can just snap and start shooting since they already have the tools available to do so. Sure, people could fight back.. but come on.. if the whole 9/11 thing went down the way it's been explained then a handful of people took control of multiple planes with box cutters. you're talking an inch and a half long razor blade. one hundred + people vs. a handful of assholes with what basically equates to one of those piddly Swiss army knife key-chains.

Masses are paralyzed by the threat to their livelihood, they won't react because there is the chance that their life may end, regardless of what they may be able to prevent. It's like people refuse to do what they can to save their fellows because their own life is more important than everybody else.

Yea, this whole fiasco has left me more enlightened than I was before, but this 'new knowledge' doesn't make me feel more intelligent, only more worried about the 'state of human affairs'... it's hard to explain.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:19 AM
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Love all these rednecks saying "OH I COULDA GOT A HEADSHOT FROM 50 YARDS BRO THIS IS SO WEIRD HOW DID NO ONE HAVE THEIR PEICE ON THEM YO" like seriously if there was correct gun control in this country, fucking retards like this shouldnt have guns in the first place. Oh and he was wearing kevlar armor from head to toe so your little peice of shit handgun isnt gonna do much while he sprays assault rifle rounds into your chest. fucking idiots
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:00 AM
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Love all these rednecks saying "OH I COULDA GOT A HEADSHOT FROM 50 YARDS BRO THIS IS SO WEIRD HOW DID NO ONE HAVE THEIR PEICE ON THEM YO" like seriously if there was correct gun control in this country, fucking retards like this shouldnt have guns in the first place. Oh and he was wearing kevlar armor from head to toe so your little peice of shit handgun isnt gonna do much while he sprays assault rifle rounds into your chest. fucking idiots
The only idiot here is you. Kevlar doesn't make you immune to pain, doesn't dissipate the force of a bullet completely, nor does it negate every caliber of handgun. Also, you can hit anyone with any caliber in any part of the body and they will feel it. Get the right size caliber and you'll knock them down or even kill them regardless if the bullet goes through the vest or not.

Congrats on being completely fucking stupid.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:50 AM
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Its definitively possible that stricter gun laws could have prevented this guy from getting guns. From the little i know about this incident it looks as if the guy wasn't some career criminal with lots of connections to black market shit. He got a hold of some nerve gas but he didn't have rpgs or anything

Though as previous posters pointed out already even though these incidents are an absolute tragedy this stuff hardly ever happens and the likely hood of this happening to you is slim to non.

If you make something illegal you create a black market for it which inherently comes with crime/violence(see war on drugs)... i think its pretty easy to make an argument that while maybe being able to prevent more tragedy's like this, a lot more violence would occur every year if you made a majority of guns illegal because of the black market. I guess it depends on how strict of gun control you implement.

There might real world examples of why stricter gun control is good but i would argue that preventing stuff like this isn't a good enough reason. for the record i don't own a gun or have a fascination with them.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:35 PM
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You hicks don't get it. That is what you get for living in a state where you can readily buy automatic and high-powered weapons.

You don't see this type of thing happening in the most populous city in the United States, Do you? Thanks Mayor Bloomberg.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:05 PM
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i blame batman and Marilyn Manson
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