If a new p99 server opened with forced raid target rotations would you switch?

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A new server costs money, time, effort, and more gm's you come in this thread and say " i want this, give it to me now". Why? Also you assume there are only two types of players on this server TMO or anti-tmo. This is called a false dilemma falacy. Project 1999 was for a classic eq experience if you want something non classic look at a different project or ...pay... for your own server.
You would have far less people on your new server than you suppose.

Red99 is on life support if we are talking about resources I think we have it there. A server with a forced rotation would need less policing in my opinion. There wouldn't be any of this VDBDA vs. TMO fighting. I am sure there are many people who would volunteer to hash our a rotation schedule and with a GMs blessing there would be little to no fighting regarding raid targets.

I am not saying "I want this" and "give it to me now". I wanted to start a poll to see if others felt the same way I did. I know there are hardcore people like yourself and others in TMO that prefer how things are now.

I am not anti-TMO, I used to be in TMO. I didn't like spending every minute I had online raiding, and this was before the DA merger. I cannot be on call for a game but I would still like to kill trak and maybe see VP one day on this server.

Asher

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red99 is on life support if we are talking about resources I think we have it there. A server with a forced rotation would need less policing in my opinion. There wouldn't be any of this VDBDA vs. TMO fighting. I am sure there are many people who would volunteer to hash our a rotation schedule and with a GMs blessing there would be little to no fighting regarding raid targets.

I am not saying "I want this" and "give it to me now". I wanted to start a poll to see if others felt the same way I did. I know there are hardcore people like yourself and others in TMO that prefer how things are now.

I am not anti-TMO, I used to be in TMO. I didn't like spending every minute I had online raiding, and this was before the DA merger. I cannot be on call for a game but I would still like to kill trak and maybe see VP one day on this server.

Asher

Then stop distracting from the true fixes, nilbogs new raid rules, and velious.

[Nirgon]

Harrison: "Alarti and Jeremy are some real pieces of shit Nirgon, you'd like them"

Yep they make sense, I like them. Good posting here.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then stop distracting from the true fixes, nilbogs new raid rules, and velious.

New raid rules would be nice, I am eager to see what he proposes. I could care less about velious. While I understand how important new content is for TMO, there are many of us who do not have access to content still in Kunark.

I am sorry you feel this is a distraction. Feel free to refrain from viewing this thread further.

Asher

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, this is the same mistake all the exiled from red99 are making. A wipe would lead to the exact same thing all over again, the only thing different would be you'd have spent another 20 days /played leveling up again.

On competitive servers, the cream always rises to the top. You could release a new server every month and it would be the same people at the top at the end of each month.

Problem is Trollborn is that Exploiters scarfed up Manastones and GEBs and other premium items by the hand fulls in just the short time the server has been out. From the onset people cheated and their ill gotten gains already smeared across the server. It's really getting old that one can't have an honest game anymore. Sure one might say, "Well how does this affect me?" It is the principle of the thing. Many of the 20 people on Red appear to have these items on every toon they possess. That said Red is more appealing to me than Blue is now. Having a choice between BDA and TMO? I'd rather have a dull toothed rat chew my toes off one toe at a time then to throw in with this lot.

[Cars]

1. New server starts, people make friends as they all level together.

2. Serious time investors start to outpace the majority of the server, become better at doing more with less, a guild is formed of serious players.

3. up and commers (people who can play a lot) are recruited into guild and shown the "how to" guide for raiding.

4. This guild trivializes raid content, server doesn't care because they are not raid-ready yet as a majority. No drama...yet

5. casual players catch up and want pixels, current top guild that is raid-trained beats out competition and is turned into a monster in the eyes of the public.

6. Casual guild increases numbers to compete against well trained and geared force of top guild.

7. New casual Zerg force wins some raids, loot is spread thin amongst large guild, internal issues lead to bad blood/forum drama internally and between top guilds.

8. Butt-hurt guilds recruit zerg forces to tackle raid targets at any time of day and cock-block other guilds. Serious bad blood created/ forum drama ensues.

9. 3rd and 4th raid guilds start to emerge, Play nice and fair preached on all mediums, in all ways, at all times. Top guilds worked too hard earning there loots to give freely, made to look like more of a monster.

Long story short, wiping the server/creating a new server/murdering TMO members irl is not going to change the end game of EQ. You could wipe this server 100 times and be right back in this same position with a different set of names and faces doing the exact same shit, every time. So enjoy it the way it is, cause this is the only server you will ever get. If you can't enjoy it like it is, then quit, Thats what i did and I was IN the top guild.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. New server starts, people make friends as they all level together.

2. Serious time investors start to outpace the majority of the server, become better at doing more with less, a guild is formed of serious players.

3. up and commers (people who can play a lot) are recruited into guild and shown the "how to" guide for raiding.

4. This guild trivializes raid content, server doesn't care because they are not raid-ready yet as a majority. No drama...yet

5. casual players catch up and want pixels, current top guild that is raid-trained beats out competition and is turned into a monster in the eyes of the public.

6. Casual guild increases numbers to compete against well trained and geared force of top guild.

7. New casual Zerg force wins some raids, loot is spread thin amongst large guild, internal issues lead to bad blood/forum drama internally and between top guilds.

8. Butt-hurt guilds recruit zerg forces to tackle raid targets at any time of day and cock-block other guilds. Serious bad blood created/ forum drama ensues.

9. 3rd and 4th raid guilds start to emerge, Play nice and fair preached on all mediums, in all ways, at all times. Top guilds worked too hard earning there loots to give freely, made to look like more of a monster.

Long story short, wiping the server/creating a new server/murdering TMO members irl is not going to change the end game of EQ. You could wipe this server 100 times and be right back in this same position with a different set of names and faces doing the exact same shit, every time. So enjoy it the way it is, cause this is the only server you will ever get. If you can't enjoy it like it is, then quit, Thats what i did and I was IN the top guild.

Hi, welcome to the thread for people to vote on whether they think a server with forced rotations is a good idea.

Have you any input on the subject?

I would think that if one was created it would avoid all the drama you listed.
This server would obviously not be geared towards hardcore gamers like the many of the people in the top guilds. These people would get bored quickly and leave.

Asher

[Tr0llb0rn]

Hey guys, there is a fairly new server still in the classic period: Red99

come try it out if you are tried of trying to out poopsock TMO or wtf ever the zerg here is called

Currently about 20 people do the raids on red99, are you saying you'd rather continue to sit in caves with TMO waiting to tag a mob then challenge 20 whole people for the exact same content on red?

Try it, you'd like it. XP bonus currently in effect there too. I dont understand why whole guilds do not transfer over there and level up together.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey guys, there is a fairly new server still in the classic period: Red99

come try it out if you are tried of trying to out poopsock TMO or wtf ever the zerg here is called

Currently about 20 people do the raids on red99, are you saying you'd rather continue to sit in caves with TMO waiting to tag a mob then challenge 20 whole people for the exact same content on red?

Try it, you'd like it. XP bonus currently in effect there too. I dont understand why whole guilds do not transfer over there and level up together.

How many times do you people need to be told that people that play on blue are not interested in PvP nor would we be interesting in playing on a server with an average population under 50. Your server will soon die and I hope they use the resources to create a server away for casuals.

Your server failed, move on.

Asher

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times do you people need to be told that people that play on blue are not interested in PvP nor would we be interesting in playing on a server with an average population under 50. Your server will soon die and I hope they use the resources to create a server away for casuals.

Your server failed, move on.

Asher

Create a new server for casuals? You have one, blue99. Why are you so interested in yet another blue server anywas? Can't you just buy your toons back from Zamiel or Grim (wtf ever that iskar monks name was you sold to) on eqmac and do the exact same content?